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22warn against
Nov 1, 2025first mention
Oct 24, 2026latest mention
Nov 25 – Oct 26
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Why people recommend it

“Did you forget what sparked the whole open-weight wave? It was that.”

“spin up a base (not instruction tuned) checkpoint of Llama 1”

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“I've actually seen better performance with older ones like Meta Llama 4 or Amazon's Nova”

“I've gotten decent results with Llama 3.1 8b on Hugging Face tester with Exa MCP”

Caveats and dissent

“LLama 3 405B had the most unoptimized kv cache usage by far.”

“Except that Llama's license has restrictions that make it incompatible with the Open Source Definition.”

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“Llama has restrictions incompatible with the definition of Open Source.”

By version sentiment of people who named that release, oldest release first

VersionSentimentPeopleFirst seen
37% recommend · 7% warn15Nov 1, 2025Comments
3.111% recommend · 11% warn27Nov 10, 2025Comments
3.230% recommend · 10% warn10Nov 10, 2025Comments
3.320% recommend · 0% warn10Dec 9, 2025Comments
422% recommend · 67% warn9Nov 9, 2025Comments
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Versions with at least 5 people. 28 people didn't name a version. Small samples swing a lot, so read the counts too. Compare all models →

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Who recommends it in their own words

All comments 58

“I've tested pairs (like Llama 3 base vs. instruct)”

“pushing me towards the Abliterated (uncensored) models Llama-3-70B-Abliterated or Hermes 3 70B, Dolphin, R1-Abliterated”

“Did you forget what sparked the whole open-weight wave? It was that.”

“spin up a base (not instruction tuned) checkpoint of Llama 1”

“Sure, it's just a 8B model or so (Llama 3.1 8B)”

“gemini-2.5-pro, claude-opus-4.8, gpt-5.1, llama-3.3-70b”

“https://chatjimmy.ai/ runs Llama 3.1-8B on an ASIC”

“I have been using open source LLMs locally for the past 5 months like Qwen, Llama, DeepSeek and others”

“LLama 3 405B had the most unoptimized kv cache usage by far.”

“Except that Llama's license has restrictions that make it incompatible with the Open Source Definition.”

“Llama has restrictions incompatible with the definition of Open Source.”

“Qwen models alone have overtaken the previously-dominant Llama models in hf downloads by quite a margin.”

“It's a quantised 8B model (Llama 3.1 8B to be exact).”

“Some small 8b models (like llama3.1) for sentiment analysis on text.”

“I've actually seen better performance with older ones like Meta Llama 4 or Amazon's Nova”

“I've gotten decent results with Llama 3.1 8b on Hugging Face tester with Exa MCP”

“it's running the rather outdated Llama 3.1 8B”

“With some outliers like Mistral and Llama on some questions.”

“My project uses 2 bit quantization to run llama3 models on any device with enough ram.”

“It's not the better model since Llama3.”

“the Llama and Qwen models gained a lot”

“llama was unintentionally released and has been a flash in the pan for them since”

“Llama 3.3 Instruct 70B is 5-10x cheaper than Sonnet 5.”

“llama is not anywhere near the Pareto distribution (performance vs cost)”

“Engaging in dialogues with three 2024 foundation AI models—Llama 3.1 405B, ChatGPT-4o, and Claude 3.5 Sonnet (new)”

“Why didn't this author compare Llama 3 with GLM 5.2”

“(1 response, from Llama 3.2 1B, classed as a hallucination)”

“it's llama 3.1 8B at 16000 tokens per second”

“transformed Llama 7B into a credible facsimle of ChatGPT”

“The underlying model is only llama 3 8B”

“Qwen 3.6 35b a3b, granite4.1 8b, llama 3.2 3b.”

“llama 3.2 3b is pretty decent for not hogging resources”

“For microscopic models I like the llama 3.2 3b more right now”

“Llama 4 was a bad model, unfortunately.”

“a LangGraph + Groq Llama 3.3 70B agent that reads GitHub PRs and issues”

final-year engineer building AI projectson “Ask HN: Who is hiring? (April 2026)”

“get Llama 3.2 1B running at 40-46 tok/s at 2W”

“Meta confirmed Llama 4 benchmarks were fudged.”

“I sent 89 identical coding prompts to 6 LLMs”

“Llama 3.3 70B's higher success rate comes down to it reliably calling the details endpoint first”

> Specifically, we collected new data created after January 2025, including: [...] new fiction on Archive of Our Own (Various, 2025), Not sure how to feel about this. From a researcher's point of view, reproducibility is important, but the last time someone publicly collected data from AO3, the community was not very fond of that. https://huggingface.co/datasets/nyuuzyou/archiveofourown/discussions

“I have run this thousands times against Llama-4-Maverick-17B-128E-Instruct-FP8 and Gemini-3-Flash with consistently working results.”

“You can run smaller models locally that are pretty good at code gen.”

“serving LLama 3.3 70B”

“The same thing was done with Meta researchers with Llama 4”

Shipping GPU-accelerated ML models in games looks difficult, are there any major examples other than vendor-locked upscaling like DLSS or FSR? (Yep! https://cod.ifies.com/voxel-visibility/ )

“The "big" one is Llama3.3-70b on the cloud, right now.”

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Also written as Llama 3.1 8B, Llama 3, Llama 3.3 70B, Llama 3.1. Data: llama.json. Quotes are verbatim; the verdict and theme labels are written by a model from these comments, and every clause links to its sources.

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