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I tried the same thing, g", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Show HN: Dock \u2013 Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss"}, {"id": 735073665, "item_id": 45942104, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45942104", "by": "SoftTalker", "date": "2025-11-15", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Video calls and meetings we use Zoom.", "excerpt": "Text chat is the only thing I do with Teams. Video calls and meetings we use Zoom.", "context": "", "use_case": "Video calls", "switched_from": "", "story": "Unofficial Microsoft Teams client for Linux"}, {"id": 735012001, "item_id": 45938250, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45938250", "by": "hpcjoe", "date": "2025-11-15", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Unlike teams, zoom generally just works.  Quite well in fact.", "excerpt": "Teams regularly fails at video conferencing. It complains of low network bandwidth at random times, and I check my firewall (OpnSense with fq_codel enabled and reasonable bandwidth limits) to note that it under very light load. I am not sure if this is a server side thing at Microsoft, or a problem with the application itself. True under Windows, Linux, via local app, and via the web app. For larger meetings (> 50 pe", "context": "", "use_case": "large meetings", "switched_from": "", "story": "Unofficial Microsoft Teams client for Linux"}]}], "caveats": [{"label": "", "summary": "", "quotes": [{"id": 803581393, "item_id": 50223837, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50223837", "by": "setopt", "date": "2026-10-24", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "it sometimes had weird glitches where it just\u2026 deletes the videos I recorded", "excerpt": "Thanks to the OBS devs! I work at a university and occasionally make video lectures for my classes. I used to do it in Zoom, but it sometimes had weird glitches where it just\u2026 deletes the videos I recorded. It\u2019s happened several times that I lost an hour or more of recordings and had to redo it, once it deleted all the recordings that I did that week. Also, it was a bit of work to position screen sharing vs my webcam", "context": "works at a university, makes lecture videos", "use_case": "recording video lectures", "switched_from": "", "story": "OBS Studio 33"}, {"id": 794881888, "item_id": 49680118, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49680118", "by": "asveikau", "date": "2026-09-13", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "I notice the browser version is a little resource intensive.", "excerpt": "I notice the browser version is a little resource intensive. I use it on freebsd and I need to renice the browser to -10 for it to be somewhat stable. (This is an improvement because I remember 6 years ago it didn't work on freebsd.) I ran it on a Mac last week and it spun the fan more than I'd expect.", "context": "FreeBSD user", "use_case": "video calls", "switched_from": "", "story": "Linux Zoom client proactively reading everything written to X11 clipboard"}, {"id": 794872048, "item_id": 49679503, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49679503", "by": "wolvoleo", "date": "2026-09-13", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "zoom has caused several security worries at work and we don't even use it.", "excerpt": "Apple did block the app so the 'working with Apple' didn't exactly earn Zoom a lot of trust with them otherwise they wouldn't have done it. They'd have let Zoom fix it in an update. And just make that update mandatory. They were just looking out for their own customers in limiting the impact, but for them to pull this handbrake means they really saw this as a big risk. 'But Cisco did it too!' is just whataboutism. It", "context": "works on corporate security", "use_case": "video conferencing", "switched_from": "", "story": "Linux Zoom client proactively reading everything written to X11 clipboard"}, {"id": 794832992, "item_id": 49677062, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49677062", "by": "rmellow", "date": "2026-09-12", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "They've lost my trust since then, and I'll only run it sandboxed", "excerpt": "Not the first time Zoom abuses privilege. A few years back, there was something about gaining root on MacOS via Zoom due to shady execution on their end. They've lost my trust since then, and I'll only run it sandboxed: https://gist.github.com/cielavenir/02f322e322a2a3555dbf2b38f2fedd59 I always ask (1) why does an app require installation and (2) why would it require root? There are valid answers for both, but reali", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Linux Zoom client proactively reading everything written to X11 clipboard"}]}], "who": [{"by": "alpaca128", "context": "Developer, daily driver M1 MacBook Pro", "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47278858", "date": "2026-03-06"}], "tags": [], "use_cases": ["video calls", "video meetings", "video conferencing", "professional video calls", "recording video lectures", "video conferencing at work"], "compared": [{"slug": "microsoft-teams", "name": "Microsoft Teams", "co": 23, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 2}, {"slug": "slack", "name": "Slack", "co": 13, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 0}, {"slug": "google-meet", "name": "Google Meet", "co": 7, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 0}, {"slug": "visual-studio-code", "name": "Visual Studio Code", "co": 5, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 0}, {"slug": "jitsi", "name": "Jitsi", "co": 3, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 1}, {"slug": "macos", "name": "macOS", "co": 4, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 0}, {"slug": "obs-studio", "name": "OBS Studio", "co": 2, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 1}, {"slug": "firefox", "name": "Firefox", "co": 3, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 0}], "makers": [], "threads": [{"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49675902", "title": "Linux Zoom client proactively reading everything written to X11 clipboard", "mentions": 5}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46713704", "title": "I'll pass on your zoom call.", "mentions": 4}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45808407", "title": "Unofficial Microsoft Teams client for Linux", "mentions": 4}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49498296", "title": "Zoom activated my mic and played \"recording in progress\" at 4AM", "mentions": 2}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48988189", "title": "Zoom is now Chrome only", "mentions": 2}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46873294", "title": "France dumps Zoom and Teams as Europe seeks digital autonomy from the US", "mentions": 2}], "sentiment_by_month": {"2025-11": {"warn": 3, "compare": 1, "recommend": 2, "neutral": 1}, "2025-12": {"warn": 2}, "2026-01": {"neutral": 3, "warn": 5, "recommend": 1, "compare": 1}, "2026-02": {"neutral": 6, "warn": 3, "compare": 2}, "2026-03": {"neutral": 6, "warn": 1}, "2026-04": {"warn": 1, "neutral": 1}, "2026-05": {"warn": 2}, "2026-06": {"warn": 1, "neutral": 1}, "2026-07": {"neutral": 1, "warn": 1}, "2026-08": {"warn": 6}, "2026-09": {"warn": 5, "neutral": 2}, "2026-10": {"warn": 1, "neutral": 1}}, "versions": [], "version_unnamed": 0, "family_ref": null, "runs_on": null, "lines": [], "quotes": [{"id": 804037522, "item_id": 50252345, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50252345", "by": "xp84", "date": "2026-10-26", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "Open on my desktop right now: Slack, Outlook, Zoom, Windows Terminal, Edge, Claude, Obsidian, whatever the Windows image viewer is called, Cursor, and VS Code", "excerpt": "> I use lots Oh really? I, sadly, use nearly none. Open on my desktop right now: Slack, Outlook, Zoom, Windows Terminal, Edge, Claude, Obsidian, whatever the Windows image viewer is called, Cursor, and VS Code. Only the last 2 have menu bars. And I can\u2019t be certain that I didn\u2019t dig through the preferences of one or both of them when I first installed them to tell them to knock off the bullshit and give me back the m", "context": "", "use_case": "video calls", "switched_from": "", "story": "Oldest GUI application that still runs on Windows 11"}, {"id": 803581393, "item_id": 50223837, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50223837", "by": "setopt", "date": "2026-10-24", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "it sometimes had weird glitches where it just\u2026 deletes the videos I recorded", "excerpt": "Thanks to the OBS devs! I work at a university and occasionally make video lectures for my classes. I used to do it in Zoom, but it sometimes had weird glitches where it just\u2026 deletes the videos I recorded. It\u2019s happened several times that I lost an hour or more of recordings and had to redo it, once it deleted all the recordings that I did that week. Also, it was a bit of work to position screen sharing vs my webcam", "context": "works at a university, makes lecture videos", "use_case": "recording video lectures", "switched_from": "", "story": "OBS Studio 33"}, {"id": 796704705, "item_id": 49794044, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49794044", "by": "robrenaud", "date": "2026-09-21", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "on zoom for the non-locals", "excerpt": "Regarding the temperature explanation: > \"Instead of picking the highest-probability token, we can use different selection strategies to balance safety and creativity in the generated text\". Safety is definitely the wrong word here. Temperature 0 generated text actually has a weird \"lack of surprise\" character that makes it seem artificial. [1] > \"high-probability texts can be dull or repetitive. Humans use language ", "context": "", "use_case": "video meetings", "switched_from": "", "story": "Transformers Explained Visually"}, {"id": 794887024, "item_id": 49680439, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49680439", "by": "uncle_kostya", "date": "2026-09-13", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "It's what we use at work", "excerpt": "It's what we use at work and I'm sure it passed a security audit. How ironic.", "context": "", "use_case": "Video conferencing at work", "switched_from": "", "story": "Linux Zoom client proactively reading everything written to X11 clipboard"}, {"id": 794881888, "item_id": 49680118, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49680118", "by": "asveikau", "date": "2026-09-13", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "I notice the browser version is a little resource intensive.", "excerpt": "I notice the browser version is a little resource intensive. I use it on freebsd and I need to renice the browser to -10 for it to be somewhat stable. (This is an improvement because I remember 6 years ago it didn't work on freebsd.) I ran it on a Mac last week and it spun the fan more than I'd expect.", "context": "FreeBSD user", "use_case": "video calls", "switched_from": "", "story": "Linux Zoom client proactively reading everything written to X11 clipboard"}, {"id": 794872048, "item_id": 49679503, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49679503", "by": "wolvoleo", "date": "2026-09-13", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "zoom has caused several security worries at work and we don't even use it.", "excerpt": "Apple did block the app so the 'working with Apple' didn't exactly earn Zoom a lot of trust with them otherwise they wouldn't have done it. They'd have let Zoom fix it in an update. And just make that update mandatory. They were just looking out for their own customers in limiting the impact, but for them to pull this handbrake means they really saw this as a big risk. 'But Cisco did it too!' is just whataboutism. It", "context": "works on corporate security", "use_case": "video conferencing", "switched_from": "", "story": "Linux Zoom client proactively reading everything written to X11 clipboard"}, {"id": 794841712, "item_id": 49677607, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49677607", "by": "rmellow", "date": "2026-09-12", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "the video quality in the browser is worse, so depending on the use case I might have to use the app (via sandbox)", "excerpt": "99% of the time I use the browser. However, the video quality in the browser is worse, so depending on the use case I might have to use the app (via sandbox). It's been years since I've had to though.", "context": "", "use_case": "video calls", "switched_from": "", "story": "Linux Zoom client proactively reading everything written to X11 clipboard"}, {"id": 794832992, "item_id": 49677062, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49677062", "by": "rmellow", "date": "2026-09-12", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "They've lost my trust since then, and I'll only run it sandboxed", "excerpt": "Not the first time Zoom abuses privilege. A few years back, there was something about gaining root on MacOS via Zoom due to shady execution on their end. They've lost my trust since then, and I'll only run it sandboxed: https://gist.github.com/cielavenir/02f322e322a2a3555dbf2b38f2fedd59 I always ask (1) why does an app require installation and (2) why would it require root? There are valid answers for both, but reali", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Linux Zoom client proactively reading everything written to X11 clipboard"}, {"id": 794192691, "item_id": 49637043, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49637043", "by": "ssl-3", "date": "2026-09-10", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "the state of common VoIP (Teams/Slack/Zoom/whatever) is also usually not very good", "excerpt": "I mean: I, for one, was definitely talking about telephone calls. :) But now that you mention it: Yeah, the state of common VoIP (Teams/Slack/Zoom/whatever) is also usually not very good. It's like there's some huge bandwidth crunch here in 2026 that is driven by the strenuous demands of VoIP, except: There isn't. When I was doing some live streaming with others in a studio a couple of years ago, we worked with some ", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "AirPods 5"}, {"id": 793499731, "item_id": 49593733, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49593733", "by": "ivankra", "date": "2026-09-07", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "Zoom, Slack are still missing native binaries", "excerpt": "I'd love to try Asahi some day, but it only supports older hardware up to M3 for now and feature support is rather fragmented: https://asahilinux.org/docs/platform/feature-support/m3/. As it's a small and slow moving project, it'd also unfortunately mean living with all the bugs and quirks for a long time if you choose it. What you could do instead is just set up your favorite Linux distro in an arm64 VM and run it w", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Finder is so frustrating and has been since day one"}, {"id": 792006496, "item_id": 49500406, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49500406", "by": "telmop", "date": "2026-08-30", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "", "excerpt": "I'm going to give it a shot, thanks!", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Zoom activated my mic and played \"recording in progress\" at 4AM"}, {"id": 791981280, "item_id": 49498830, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49498830", "by": "tenarchits", "date": "2026-08-30", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "", "excerpt": "You could start with a data subject access request: https://zoom-privacy.my.onetrust.com/webform/65962359-ef0d-4399-9db4-572d06de08aa/f277f9f7-bfee-4233-815e-80e290139bc2.", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Zoom activated my mic and played \"recording in progress\" at 4AM"}, {"id": 790315968, "item_id": 49394748, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49394748", "by": "dwaite", "date": "2026-08-21", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "One of the more famous abusers was Zoom", "excerpt": "It is most likely this: https://wicg.github.io/local-network-access/ For a while there's been an anti-pattern where a piece of software leaves a localhost daemon running (often without proper security) for web integration. One of the more famous abusers was Zoom: https://infosecwriteups.com/zoom-zero-day-4-million-webcams-maybe-an-rce-just-get-them-to-visit-your-website-ac75c83f4ef5 XSRF vulns also have existed where", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "AliExpress runs silent WebAudio fingerprinting that breaks Bluetooth multipoint"}, {"id": 789904928, "item_id": 49369058, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49369058", "by": "rjzzleep", "date": "2026-08-19", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "Zoom somehow turned into something like Skype, post acquisition.", "excerpt": "Yes, Zoom somehow turned into something like Skype, post acquisition. But, at the same time. A design that requires everyone to implement their own protocols and everyone to refix the same bugs in their own compositor is inherintly bad. I have been using Wayland as my daily driver. Some compositors lacked SHM support in their screen sharing, others have other issues. We only recently got proper text input support, an", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "XWayland 26.1-rc1 Released Two Years After the Last Release"}, {"id": 789881632, "item_id": 49367602, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49367602", "by": "ChrisMarshallNY", "date": "2026-08-19", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "I use Zoom frequently, but always find it to be exhausting.", "excerpt": "Also Zoom. I know a number of folks that work remote, and they are on Zoom, all day. That would drive me nuts! [actually, it's not really a drive; more of a short putt -Ed.] I use Zoom frequently, but always find it to be exhausting. I guess that's just me, though. But I'm also retired, and really leaning into not ever going back into the office again.", "context": "retired", "use_case": "video meetings", "switched_from": "", "story": "Remote workers report the highest well-being in study of 7,700 employees"}, {"id": 787805201, "item_id": 49237825, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49237825", "by": "joelm", "date": "2026-08-09", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "I got sick of being on Zoom calls and having things lag or glitch", "excerpt": "I got sick of being on Zoom calls and having things lag or glitch, and not knowing if the issue was something I'm responsible for or not. Is it my LAN/Wi-Fi, my ISP path, some broader Internet issue, or Zoom? So, I built a tool to answer that. Major goals have been to keep low energy/cpu usage (so I can run it 24/7), have it adapt to the apps/traffic I'm using (rather than use static monitoring endpoints), and to del", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Ask HN: What are you working on? (August 2026)"}, {"id": 784704576, "item_id": 49044036, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49044036", "by": "MiddleEndian", "date": "2026-07-24", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "Meeting notifications steal my focus", "excerpt": ">You do want the application to steal focus when necessary No I don't. We recently switched to Zoom at work. Meeting notifications steal my focus (Windows 11 device) and it's fucking terrible. Nothing should ever steal focus.", "context": "Windows 11 user at work", "use_case": "work meetings", "switched_from": "", "story": "Nothing works and everyone is euphoric"}, {"id": 783912928, "item_id": 48994558, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48994558", "by": "cpeterso", "date": "2026-07-21", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "Mozilla has a User-Agent override intervention for Zoom on Android", "excerpt": "Here is a Firefox bug report about the issue: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1944219. Mozilla has a User-Agent override intervention for Zoom on Android, but it's currently only in the Firefox Nightly builds.", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Zoom is now Chrome only"}, {"id": 783912896, "item_id": 48994556, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48994556", "by": "cpeterso", "date": "2026-07-21", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "Mozilla has a User-Agent override intervention for Zoom on Android", "excerpt": "Here is a Firefox bug report about the issue: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1944219. Mozilla has a User-Agent override intervention for Zoom on Android, but it's currently only in the Firefox Nightly builds.", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Zoom is now Chrome only"}, {"id": 775532258, "item_id": 48470766, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48470766", "by": "imglorp", "date": "2026-06-09", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "That plus slack, zoom, ff with scores of tabs", "excerpt": "I'll defend, not cringe for everyone. Daily driver is a 6yo, 32Mb mbp and it might not scream like an M5 or have the miraculous power draw of an M5, it gets my job done. One nice thing is x86 containers run natively: I run most of my $work landscape which is 40 or 50 k8s pods on top of Kind, which is itself a plain container. That mirrors my prod. That plus slack, zoom, ff with scores of tabs, etc. all while building", "context": "", "use_case": "video calls", "switched_from": "", "story": "macOS Container Machines"}, {"id": 774127619, "item_id": 48382976, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48382976", "by": "strobe", "date": "2026-06-03", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "Zoom app can't share display even if everything for that is provided", "excerpt": "I recently had opposite experience - I been using NixOS with X11+i3 for about 2 years and never had any significant issues beside some troubles with one Nvidia driver version, even most Steam games worked for me without any issues. But out of curiosity decided to give try Wayland+Sway. First Sway remind me that Nvidia GPU completely unsupported and probably wont work at all, but in really fix for that just to use som", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Preparing for KDE Plasma's Last X11-Supported Release"}, {"id": 771063536, "item_id": 48191471, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48191471", "by": "lproven", "date": "2026-05-19", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "I go out of my way to avoid Zoom if I possibly can.", "excerpt": "It is not a Linux distro. It is not a Linux at all; it is a completely different, independent OS. It is not a Unix at all: it's an independent ground-up C++ OS that implements a lot of POSIX-type APIs to make it easier to port Unix apps. Docker is literally a Linux native tool that is for Linux only. The only way Docker works on anything that isn't Linux is by running a Linux VM, containing Alpine. It is not a Linux ", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Haiku OS runs on M1 Macs now"}, {"id": 768754528, "item_id": 48047158, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48047158", "by": "pzduniak", "date": "2026-05-07", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "Zoom misled users by claiming \u201cend-to-end, 256-bit encryption\u201d when it actually provided a lower level of security", "excerpt": ">The FTC went after Zoom in 2020. The complaint alleged that since at least 2016, Zoom misled users by claiming \u201cend-to-end, 256-bit encryption\u201d when it actually provided a lower level of security, and Zoom saved the cryptographic keys that would allow it to access the content of customers\u2019 meetings. May 7th 2020: https://www.zoom.com/en/blog/zoom-acquires-keybase-and-announces-goal-of-developing-the-most-broadly-use", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Proton Meet"}, {"id": 766726896, "item_id": 47920431, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47920431", "by": "spaqin", "date": "2026-04-27", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "", "excerpt": "I use a 2012 Samsung ultrabook with Arch for light coding, web and limited image editing sometimes while traveling; while fairly beat up, recently I replaced the battery in it for 10 bucks in 20 minutes; it was also probably like a fifth of the price. And with Linux you don't have to worry about a specific kit lasting a long time - it just runs anyway.", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "When the cheap one is the cool one"}, {"id": 766141137, "item_id": 47883821, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47883821", "by": "gerdesj", "date": "2026-04-23", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "Call quality was way better than a modern Teams or Zoom call", "excerpt": "\"How much did a phone call cost per minute from UK to Australia in the 70's and 80's ?\" I think around \u00a35 per minute or more. A quick search found this: https://www.austehc.unimelb.edu.au/tia/576_image.html#Table%208 so my memory is not too far off and that is the other way. Bear in mind that a squid (\u00a31) was worth rather more in the '70s, than now. A circuit switched call in the '70s - '90s (at least) within the UK ", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Bring your own Agent to MS Teams"}, {"id": 760678387, "item_id": 47542399, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47542399", "by": "pjc50", "date": "2026-03-27", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "Zoom is 500MB", "excerpt": "https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/vmmap for an empty sublime text window gives me: - 100MB 'image' (ie executable code; the executable itself plus all the OS libraries loaded.) - 40MB heap - 50MB \"mapped file\", mostly fonts opened with mmap() or the windows equivalent - 45MB stack (each thread gets 2MB) - 40MB \"shareable\" (no idea) - 5MB \"unusable\" (appears to be address space that's not usable", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Everything old is new again: memory optimization"}, {"id": 760076993, "item_id": 47504812, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47504812", "by": "projektfu", "date": "2026-03-24", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "I use both from the browser now because they are both abusive.", "excerpt": "I don't like either very much. Both Teams and Zoom try to stay resident after you're done. I use both from the browser now because they are both abusive.", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Microsoft's \"Fix\" for Windows 11: Flowers After the Beating"}, {"id": 759787938, "item_id": 47486746, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47486746", "by": "Guestmodinfo", "date": "2026-03-23", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "I have to use zoom professionally with writing tablet on my laptop for hours daily.", "excerpt": "For my use case, you are making mountain out of a mole hill. I use AntiX linux with XFCE. I have to use zoom professionally with writing tablet on my laptop for hours daily. Never faced even tiny bit of a problem. Never have to install any drivers for tablet. Nothing. AntiX is fully usable and very fast Debian based OS and doesn't uses systemd. It uses runit.", "context": "", "use_case": "professional video calls", "switched_from": "", "story": "Is possible a modern Linux without systemd? artix/dinit/labwc/noctalia"}, {"id": 759380755, "item_id": 47461297, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47461297", "by": "raw_anon_1111", "date": "2026-03-20", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "we use GSuite - Zoom and Slack.", "excerpt": "I was forced to use Windows recently for a year between late 2023-2024. Windows itself is fine. It\u2019s the hardware that sucks with it still being forced to be on x86. The heat, the bad battery life, the fan noise, etc. On the Mac side, either way I spent all of my day in VSCode and the browser - we use GSuite - Zoom and Slack. It wouldn\u2019t make that much of a different either way. The only integrations I use between my", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Our Commitment to Windows Quality"}, {"id": 758965764, "item_id": 47435360, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47435360", "by": "nonconstant", "date": "2026-03-18", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "and also on zoom meetings", "excerpt": "Hey! I started using web presentations recently, so I went ahead and built something super fun - a plugin (for Slidev and Reveal.js) that adds interactive slides: ask a question and watch answers coming in, in real time. People scan a QR code and respond from their mobile browsers. It's powered by the free version of our product (AnyCable, I'm a co-founder) - but AnyCable is also MIT licensed, so no vendor lock. It j", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": null}, {"id": 757767058, "item_id": 47360441, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47360441", "by": "raw_anon_1111", "date": "2026-03-12", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "the only thing I ran on it was VSCode, Safari and Zoom", "excerpt": "I had no personal computer for years except what only served as my Plex Server until I took it down. I bought a 16GB M2 MacBook Air after I was Amazoned to work on a side contract when I was between jobs. I used it for four weeks and the only thing I ran on it was VSCode, Safari and Zoom. I would have been fine with the MacBook Neo. Right now with a job, it\u2019s about the same - we use GSuite in a browser.", "context": "", "use_case": "meetings", "switched_from": "", "story": "\"This Is Not the Computer for You\""}, {"id": 756461737, "item_id": 47278858, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47278858", "by": "alpaca128", "date": "2026-03-06", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "", "excerpt": "I have an M1 with 8GB and M2 with 16GB, and they are not comparable. I once ran the M2 smoothly for over 250 days without reboot with a bunch of applications open the whole time (at some point it just force-rebooted, fair enough). On the other hand I regretted the 8GB on my M1 Mini every time I used it. 8GB is perfectly fine for light use, but I'd argue if that's enough then you don't need the power of an M1+ process", "context": "Developer, daily driver M1 MacBook Pro", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "MacBook Neo"}, {"id": 755527776, "item_id": 47220486, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47220486", "by": "ChrisMarshallNY", "date": "2026-03-02", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "for Zoom meetings", "excerpt": "I use a 2012 MacBook Air 11\" for Zoom meetings. Still runs like a champ. It's stuck on Catalina, but Apple still sends out patch releases.", "context": "", "use_case": "Video meetings", "switched_from": "", "story": "Apple introduces the new iPad Air, powered by M4"}, {"id": 754858929, "item_id": 47178683, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47178683", "by": "logicallee", "date": "2026-02-27", "version": null, "stance": "compare", "quote": "Zoom has a 1 hour meeting limit for free accounts", "excerpt": ">the point is that it _is_ the only possible model in our marvellous Friedmanian economic structure of shareholder primacy. When the only incentive is profit, if your company isn't maximising profit then it will lose to other companies who are. You can hope that the self-imposed ethics guardrails _are_ maximising profit because it the invisible hand of the market cares about that, but 1. it never really does (at scal", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Anthropic ditches its core safety promise"}, {"id": 753754322, "item_id": 47109645, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47109645", "by": "raw_anon_1111", "date": "2026-02-22", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "Zoom/Gong/Microsoft Teams knows every conversation yoh have with a client", "excerpt": "On average a company uses 100+ SaaS companies https://www.sellerscommerce.com/blog/saas-statistics/ Salesforce has had your client list, the amount the deal is worth, the status of the deal, which of your employees are working on the deal, their bill rate etc. for years. Zoom/Gong/Microsoft Teams knows every conversation yoh have with a client if you turn transcriptions on. Your email provider gets your company email", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "So Claude's stealing our business secrets, right?"}, {"id": 753711751, "item_id": 47106984, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47106984", "by": "bromuro", "date": "2026-02-21", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "The only thing they have in common is that are slow, laggy, difficult to use", "excerpt": "No, they are also inconsistent: slack, vscode, zed, claude, chatgpt, figma, notion, zoom, docker desktop, to quote some that i use daily. They have all different UI patterns and design. The only thing they have in common is that are slow, laggy, difficult to use and don\u2019t respond quickly to the Window manager. Compare to other software on Mac such as Pages, Xcode, Tower, Transmission, Pixelmator, mp3tag, Table plus, ", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "When Code is Free, Why is Claude is an Electron app?"}, {"id": 753130673, "item_id": 47070667, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47070667", "by": "ChrisMarshallNY", "date": "2026-02-18", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "I use it to run Zoom meetings", "excerpt": "I regularly use a 2012 MacBook Air 11\". It\u2019s stuck with Catalina, but works fine (I use it to run Zoom meetings).", "context": "", "use_case": "Video meetings", "switched_from": "", "story": "27-year-old Apple iBooks can connect to Wi-Fi and download official updates"}, {"id": 752524324, "item_id": 47032770, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47032770", "by": "jen20", "date": "2026-02-16", "version": null, "stance": "compare", "quote": "where Zoom or Webex are the only games in town", "excerpt": "It's not though. There are seams everywhere - between Sharepoint, Teams, OneDrive and so forth. It's the worst possible approach. Fortunately the company I work at switched to Slack the day I started (co-incidentally), so I've been able to compare and contrast the two live. Slack wins for every single use case _except_ video and audio (where Zoom or Webex are the only games in town), hands down. That's on top of the ", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "OpenAI Should Build Slack"}, {"id": 751946930, "item_id": 46996683, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46996683", "by": "movedx", "date": "2026-02-12", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "using Zoom or something else like Jitsi on the side", "excerpt": "I\u2019m going to do a video on this soon, but I was able to get Ergo IRCd and TheLounge up and running pretty quickly; https://chat.crilly.au/ I\u2019ll be building a new platform on these two technologies and using Zoom or something else like Jitsi on the side for video/audio sharing. It\u2019s time accept the loss of \u201cfeatures\u201d and go back to something simpler but also something that can still be here in 38 years \u2014 like IRC has ", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Discord Just Killed Anonymity"}, {"id": 751709680, "item_id": 46981855, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46981855", "by": "siroccoeclipse", "date": "2026-02-11", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "His funeral will be streamed via Zoom", "excerpt": "His funeral will be streamed via Zoom, you can register here: https://us02web.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_OOeny8m3R7uvxA0Q9NLlog", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Dave Farber has passed away"}]}