{"slug": "yggdrasil", "name": "Yggdrasil", "category": "networking", "category_name": "Networking and VPN", "description": "", "recommenders": 4, "commenters": 5, "warners": 0, "score": 3.932, "rising": 2.67, "first": "2026-01-20", "latest": "2026-10-09", "why": "I've been using it as a Tailscale replacement for a few weeks, including hosting game servers, with about equivalent latency, and it seemed pretty stable.", "why_is_quote": true, "has_verdict": false, "sentiment": {"recommend": 4, "neutral": 0, "compare": 1, "warn": 0}, "spark": [0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 2, 1], "listed": true, "loved": [], "caveat": "", "short_quote": "I've been using it as a Tailscale replacement for a few weeks, including hosting game servers, with about equivalent latency, and it seemed pretty stable.", "icon": true, "domain": null, "github_repo": null, "official_url": "https://yggdrasil-network.github.io", "pricing": "", "aliases": ["Yggdrasil"], "verdict": null, "praise": [{"label": "", "summary": "", "quotes": [{"id": 800258128, "item_id": 50016133, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50016133", "by": "ahf8Aithaex7Nai", "date": "2026-10-09", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "I\u2019ve been running it this way for many years now, and it works flawlessly.", "excerpt": "I use Yggdrasil [0] to connect my computers. This ensures they are always connected within a flat, private IPv6 namespace. However, two computers cannot find each other if they are both behind NAT on different networks. At least one of them must be reachable by the other via TCP. That\u2019s why I use the cheapest VPS I could find as a globally accessible Yggdrasil hub. I\u2019ve been running it this way for many years now, an", "context": "", "use_case": "private IPv6 mesh between computers", "switched_from": "", "story": "Ask HN: What do you run on a $5 VPS that's worth keeping online 24/7?"}, {"id": 798009105, "item_id": 49875569, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49875569", "by": "coldblues", "date": "2026-09-28", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "especially Yggdrasil. It makes no compromises on speed and latency, but it has no anonymity.", "excerpt": "I recommend that people give I2P and Yggdrasil a try as well, especially Yggdrasil. 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What could be used as an alternative to Tailscale, netbird, etc. - [0] https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10478-easily-accessing-all-your-stuff-with-a-zero-trust-mesh-vpn - [1] https://github.com/threefoldtech/mycelium/blob/master/docs/private_network.md", "context": "", "use_case": "private overlay networks", "switched_from": "", "story": "Netbird a German Tailscale alternative (P2P WireGuard-based overlay network)"}, {"id": 747026720, "item_id": 46689170, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46689170", "by": "pona-a", "date": "2026-01-20", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "I've been using it as a Tailscale replacement for a few weeks, including hosting game servers, with about equivalent latency, and it seemed pretty stable.", "excerpt": "Surprised to see nobody mentioned Yggdrasil [0]. It's a routing protocol with cryptographic, non-topologic addresses, which could be used on top of TCP/IP or any alternative stack, like LoRA. I've been using it as a Tailscale replacement for a few weeks, including hosting game servers, with about equivalent latency, and it seemed pretty stable. How does Reticulum differ? [0] https://yggdrasil-network.github.io/", "context": "", "use_case": "mesh VPN, game servers", "switched_from": "Tailscale", "story": "Reticulum, a secure and anonymous mesh networking stack"}]}