{"slug": "xorg", "name": "Xorg", "category": "other", "category_name": "Other software", "description": "", "recommenders": 3, "commenters": 6, "warners": 1, "score": 2.297, "rising": 1.67, "first": "2026-01-04", "latest": "2026-08-22", "why": "Removing Xorg while Nvidia users make up the majority is insane.", "why_is_quote": true, "has_verdict": false, "sentiment": {"recommend": 3, "neutral": 1, "compare": 1, "warn": 1}, "spark": [0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 2, 0, 0], "listed": true, "loved": [], "caveat": "", "short_quote": "Removing Xorg while Nvidia users make up the majority is insane.", "icon": true, "domain": null, "github_repo": null, "official_url": "https://www.x.org", "pricing": "", "aliases": ["Xorg"], "verdict": null, "praise": [{"label": "", "summary": "", "quotes": [{"id": 790070928, "item_id": 49379433, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49379433", "by": "mmh0000", "date": "2026-08-20", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Why? Because it works. It works well!", "excerpt": "That's a new take: Project with new release 1 day ago declared deprecated! I've been using Linux for around 2 decades. I am currently running Fedora 43/KDE Plasma ... and wait for it ... Xorg. Why? Because it works. It works well! Why don't I use Wayland? Because it breaks everything. - Screensharing is just wonky and inconsistent across applications. It has gotten better in the last 2 years, but it's still quite won", "context": "Linux user for around 2 decades", "use_case": "display server", "switched_from": "", "story": "Xorg-Server 26.0.99.901"}, {"id": 789951281, "item_id": 49371955, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49371955", "by": "sertraline", "date": "2026-08-20", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Removing Xorg while Nvidia users make up the majority is insane.", "excerpt": "Yep, it is important to remember Metux was a sole guy supporting Xorg for many years while everybody else outright refused to touch the codebase. Then they blamed Metux for \"breaking compatibility.\" While this sounds like a plausible reason, long time Linux users could recall that every major X release broke something in one way or another. It's just how it is, there is no way around it. They blamed Metux for doing s", "context": "", "use_case": "display server", "switched_from": "", "story": "XWayland 26.1-rc1 Released Two Years After the Last Release"}, {"id": 743784882, "item_id": 46486555, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46486555", "by": "gsliepen", "date": "2026-01-04", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "with Xorg you have a solid base", "excerpt": "A rather big problem is that Wayland is just a protocol, not an implementation. There are many competing implementations, like Gnome, KDE and wlroots. The problems you have with one of them might not appear in another. The reference compositor, Weston, is not really usable as a daily driver. So while with Xorg you have a solid base, and desktops are implemented on top of that, with Wayland the each desktop is reinven", "context": "", "use_case": "display server", "switched_from": "", "story": "Can I start using Wayland in 2026?"}]}], "caveats": [{"label": "", "summary": "", "quotes": [{"id": 777693505, "item_id": 48605844, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48605844", "by": "calvinmorrison", "date": "2026-06-19", "stance": "warn", "quote": "I also think Xorg is basically going into apache office mode", "excerpt": "So I have been kind of idly watching this, trying to avoid the political. Every few days i jump in, do a git pull and look at commits. Over time I have been pasting them into the IRC and chatting about it. Some are clearly like 'wow this is an obvious fix' to bugs that seem to have been long standing. papercut type bugs. 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The things I listed are just the tip of the iceberg. Having studied earlier versions of X like X10, X11, and now Wayland, I could go on and on. What I'm trying to emphasize here is not to look at Wayland through an Xorg lens. I know it's easy to look at Wayland and immediately think it's a rigid protocol that breaks everything, b", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Xorg-Server 26.0.99.901"}, {"id": 790075057, "item_id": 49379691, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49379691", "by": "sbinnee", "date": "2026-08-20", "stance": "neutral", "quote": "I used to run xorg and wayland together and switch between them", "excerpt": "I used to run xorg and wayland together and switch between them because you know you setup xorg no matter what even if you daily drive wayland. 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