{"slug": "umbrel", "name": "Umbrel", "category": "selfhosted", "category_name": "Self-hosted and home server", "description": "", "recommenders": 4, "commenters": 12, "warners": 3, "score": 1.978, "rising": -1.31, "first": "2025-11-13", "latest": "2026-05-14", "why": "Works extremely well, I highly recommend it for similar applications. Nice web based UI.", "why_is_quote": true, "has_verdict": false, "sentiment": {"recommend": 4, "neutral": 5, "compare": 1, "warn": 3}, "spark": [1, 2, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0], "listed": true, "loved": [], "caveat": "", "short_quote": "Works extremely well, I highly recommend it for similar applications. Nice web based UI.", "kind": "", "icon": true, "domain": null, "github_repo": "github.com/getumbrel/umbrel", "official_url": "https://umbrel.com/", "pricing": "", "aliases": ["Umbrel", "umbrelOS", "Umbrel OS"], "verdict": null, "praise": [{"label": "", "summary": "", "quotes": [{"id": 746762129, "item_id": 46672633, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46672633", "by": "catapart", "date": "2026-01-18", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "personally, I could probably get behind recommending something like umbrel[0]", "excerpt": "yeah, I was one of them. developers are not the endgame, though. true social media needs people who are not going to do anything more complicated than \"go to website, sign up\". there's no world where setting up your own pds is that simple without an organized piece of software to do that kind of thing. personally, I could probably get behind recommending something like umbrel[0], if it included something like a \"incl", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "A Social Filesystem"}, {"id": 740526672, "item_id": 46282917, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46282917", "by": "block_dagger", "date": "2025-12-15", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Works extremely well, I highly recommend it for similar applications. Nice web based UI.", "excerpt": "Picked up an Umbrel server to run Bitcoin Knots node last month. Works extremely well, I highly recommend it for similar applications. Nice web based UI.", "context": "", "use_case": "running Bitcoin Knots node", "switched_from": "", "story": "Umbrel \u2013 Personal Cloud"}, {"id": 740467840, "item_id": 46279240, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46279240", "by": "oldfuture", "date": "2025-12-15", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "we should start switching to solutions like this to keep control and freedom", "excerpt": "if you don't have your data when you don't have access to third parties you don't own your data. we should start switching to solutions like this to keep control and freedom you can find their opensource repos here: https://github.com/getumbrel", "context": "", "use_case": "personal cloud server", "switched_from": "", "story": "Umbrel \u2013 Personal Cloud"}, {"id": 734637440, "item_id": 45914840, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45914840", "by": "pzo", "date": "2025-11-13", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Then with software wish it could easily have app store like umbrel: https://umbrel.com", "excerpt": "what I wish this device had: 1) front speaker instead of this magnetic panel that is only for esthetic 2) wireless charging pad on top 3) home router functionality - just attach 4g modem to usb-a 4) matter hub for smart home They could advertise you getting 7in1 devices for the same price: - game console - smart speaker like alexa - smart tv (miracast, google cast, airplay) - smart home hub for matter devices - home ", "context": "", "use_case": "Self-hosted home server app store", "switched_from": "", "story": "Valve is about to win the console generation"}]}], "caveats": [{"label": "", "summary": "", "quotes": [{"id": 740542320, "item_id": 46283895, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46283895", "by": "MegaSec", "date": "2025-12-15", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "There's a Github link for the os, but it is under some strange not-quite OSS or Free Software license", "excerpt": "There's a Github link for the os, but it is under some strange not-quite OSS or Free Software license... https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel", "context": "", "use_case": "Personal cloud OS", "switched_from": "", "story": "Umbrel \u2013 Personal Cloud"}, {"id": 740499856, "item_id": 46281241, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46281241", "by": "evil-olive", "date": "2025-12-15", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "there seems to be a pretty big mismatch between that performance and their website claims", "excerpt": "according to [0] it looks like the \"Umbrel Home\" device they sell (with 16GB RAM and an N150 CPU) can run a 7B model at 2.7 tokens/sec, or a 13B model at 1.5 t/s. especially when they seem to be aiming for a not-terribly-technical market segment, there seems to be a pretty big mismatch between that performance and their website claims: > The most transformative technology of our generation shouldn't be confined to co", "context": "", "use_case": "personal cloud and local AI", "switched_from": "", "story": "Umbrel \u2013 Personal Cloud"}, {"id": 740479968, "item_id": 46279998, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46279998", "by": "ignoramous", "date": "2025-12-15", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "Not all Umbrel repos are OSS (and that's okay)", "excerpt": "> you can find their opensource repos here: github.com/getumbrel Not all Umbrel repos are OSS (and that's okay): https://blog.getumbrel.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-umbrels-new-license-f9807203a57e / https://archive.vn/4M4xO", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Umbrel \u2013 Personal Cloud"}]}], "who": [{"by": "zenapollo", "context": "self-hosting for about 6 months", "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46279905", "date": "2025-12-15"}], "tags": [], "use_cases": ["personal cloud os", "running bitcoin knots node", "personal cloud and local ai", "self-hosting apps", "personal cloud server", "self-hosted home server app store"], "compared": [], "makers": [{"id": 740636576, "item_id": 46289786, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46289786", "by": "lukechilds", "date": "2025-12-16", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "Hi Umbrel CTO and cofounder here", "excerpt": "Hi Umbrel CTO and cofounder here, appreciate the thoughtful feedback. > how do I keep using this thing in 5\u201310 years without your cloud, your app store, your updates? The code is publicly available with a non-commercial restriction. If Umbrel the company disappears it's possible for a community maintained fork to live on. Someone else in this discussion mentioned that the NC clause hurts maintainability due to no fut", "context": "Umbrel CTO and cofounder", "use_case": "personal cloud server", "switched_from": "", "story": "Umbrel \u2013 Personal Cloud"}], "threads": [{"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46279187", "title": "Umbrel \u2013 Personal Cloud", "mentions": 11}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48140541", "title": "RISC-V Router", "mentions": 1}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46665839", "title": "A Social Filesystem", "mentions": 1}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45908464", "title": "Valve is about to win the console generation", "mentions": 1}], "sentiment_by_month": {"2025-11": {"recommend": 1}, "2025-12": {"recommend": 2, "neutral": 5, "warn": 3}, "2026-01": {"recommend": 1}, "2026-02": {}, "2026-03": {}, "2026-04": {}, "2026-05": {"compare": 1}, "2026-06": {}, "2026-07": {}, "2026-08": {}, "2026-09": {}, "2026-10": {}}, "versions": [], "version_unnamed": 0, "family_ref": null, "runs_on": null, "lines": [], "quotes": [{"id": 770271792, "item_id": 48141987, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48141987", "by": "sunshine-o", "date": "2026-05-14", "version": null, "stance": "compare", "quote": "It is very similar to Umbrel [0].", "excerpt": "It is not well know but I heard good thing about what they do. It is very similar to Umbrel [0]. - [0] https://umbrel.com/", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "RISC-V Router"}, {"id": 746762129, "item_id": 46672633, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46672633", "by": "catapart", "date": "2026-01-18", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "personally, I could probably get behind recommending something like umbrel[0]", "excerpt": "yeah, I was one of them. developers are not the endgame, though. true social media needs people who are not going to do anything more complicated than \"go to website, sign up\". there's no world where setting up your own pds is that simple without an organized piece of software to do that kind of thing. personally, I could probably get behind recommending something like umbrel[0], if it included something like a \"incl", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "A Social Filesystem"}, {"id": 740542320, "item_id": 46283895, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46283895", "by": "MegaSec", "date": "2025-12-15", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "There's a Github link for the os, but it is under some strange not-quite OSS or Free Software license", "excerpt": "There's a Github link for the os, but it is under some strange not-quite OSS or Free Software license... https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel", "context": "", "use_case": "Personal cloud OS", "switched_from": "", "story": "Umbrel \u2013 Personal Cloud"}, {"id": 740526672, "item_id": 46282917, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46282917", "by": "block_dagger", "date": "2025-12-15", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Works extremely well, I highly recommend it for similar applications. Nice web based UI.", "excerpt": "Picked up an Umbrel server to run Bitcoin Knots node last month. Works extremely well, I highly recommend it for similar applications. Nice web based UI.", "context": "", "use_case": "running Bitcoin Knots node", "switched_from": "", "story": "Umbrel \u2013 Personal Cloud"}, {"id": 740505712, "item_id": 46281607, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46281607", "by": "tredre3", "date": "2025-12-15", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "umbrelOS is debian", "excerpt": "You misunderstand how licensing works. They can build an entirely closed source OS around the Linux kernel if they want. The only thing they'd have to publish is the changes to the kernel itself. I don't see why they'd need to modify the kernel so they'd have to publish absolutely nothing! But to answer your question, umbrelOS is debian. You're right that they don't advertise that fact anywhere (that I've seen). They", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Umbrel \u2013 Personal Cloud"}, {"id": 740499856, "item_id": 46281241, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46281241", "by": "evil-olive", "date": "2025-12-15", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "there seems to be a pretty big mismatch between that performance and their website claims", "excerpt": "according to [0] it looks like the \"Umbrel Home\" device they sell (with 16GB RAM and an N150 CPU) can run a 7B model at 2.7 tokens/sec, or a 13B model at 1.5 t/s. especially when they seem to be aiming for a not-terribly-technical market segment, there seems to be a pretty big mismatch between that performance and their website claims: > The most transformative technology of our generation shouldn't be confined to co", "context": "", "use_case": "personal cloud and local AI", "switched_from": "", "story": "Umbrel \u2013 Personal Cloud"}, {"id": 740492624, "item_id": 46280789, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46280789", "by": "jazzyjackson", "date": "2025-12-15", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "Yes looks like they offer the OS for Raspberry pi and \"any x86 system\"", "excerpt": "Yes looks like they offer the OS for Raspberry pi and \"any x86 system\" https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel", "context": "", "use_case": "Personal cloud OS", "switched_from": "", "story": "Umbrel \u2013 Personal Cloud"}, {"id": 740489808, "item_id": 46280613, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46280613", "by": "catapart", "date": "2025-12-15", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "", "excerpt": "Sorry, isn't this running an open-source OS? The header has a link to a github with a non-commercial license[0]. If so, couldn't you just use the OS on non-premium-priced mini-PC hardware and never have to worry about them locking you out of your box? I guess maybe it's concerning if you're being forced to update by the OS? I've never actually run a system like that, but was considering umbrel OS (didn't actually kno", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Umbrel \u2013 Personal Cloud"}, {"id": 740479968, "item_id": 46279998, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46279998", "by": "ignoramous", "date": "2025-12-15", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "Not all Umbrel repos are OSS (and that's okay)", "excerpt": "> you can find their opensource repos here: github.com/getumbrel Not all Umbrel repos are OSS (and that's okay): https://blog.getumbrel.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-umbrels-new-license-f9807203a57e / https://archive.vn/4M4xO", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Umbrel \u2013 Personal Cloud"}, {"id": 740478480, "item_id": 46279905, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46279905", "by": "zenapollo", "date": "2025-12-15", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "the GUI limits customization and hacking. And I hit those limits super fast on Umbrel.", "excerpt": "I'm very pleased that it seems like there is a real movement happening in the self-hosted space. I've been self-hosting for about 6 months and actually started with umbrel because the UI looks so polished, which is comforting for people like me who didn't live in the CL. But there's a reason dev and eng tools always have the CL fallback, the GUI limits customization and hacking. And I hit those limits super fast on U", "context": "self-hosting for about 6 months", "use_case": "self-hosting apps", "switched_from": "", "story": "Umbrel \u2013 Personal Cloud"}, {"id": 740472544, "item_id": 46279534, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46279534", "by": "EvanAnderson", "date": "2025-12-15", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "Here's a comparison on running it on your own hardware vs. theirs", "excerpt": "Here's a comparison on running it on your own hardware vs. theirs: https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel/wiki/umbrelOS-on-Umbrel-Home-vs.-DIY", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Umbrel \u2013 Personal Cloud"}, {"id": 740467840, "item_id": 46279240, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46279240", "by": "oldfuture", "date": "2025-12-15", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "we should start switching to solutions like this to keep control and freedom", "excerpt": "if you don't have your data when you don't have access to third parties you don't own your data. we should start switching to solutions like this to keep control and freedom you can find their opensource repos here: https://github.com/getumbrel", "context": "", "use_case": "personal cloud server", "switched_from": "", "story": "Umbrel \u2013 Personal Cloud"}, {"id": 734637440, "item_id": 45914840, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45914840", "by": "pzo", "date": "2025-11-13", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Then with software wish it could easily have app store like umbrel: https://umbrel.com", "excerpt": "what I wish this device had: 1) front speaker instead of this magnetic panel that is only for esthetic 2) wireless charging pad on top 3) home router functionality - just attach 4g modem to usb-a 4) matter hub for smart home They could advertise you getting 7in1 devices for the same price: - game console - smart speaker like alexa - smart tv (miracast, google cast, airplay) - smart home hub for matter devices - home ", "context": "", "use_case": "Self-hosted home server app store", "switched_from": "", "story": "Valve is about to win the console generation"}]}