{"slug": "tuta", "name": "Tuta", "category": "communication", "category_name": "Email and chat", "description": "", "recommenders": 4, "commenters": 7, "warners": 1, "score": 3.335, "rising": 2.67, "first": "2026-01-22", "latest": "2026-10-30", "why": "The thing I pay for is Tuta. The cheapest tier is way more generous than Proton and the product is simpler.", "why_is_quote": true, "has_verdict": false, "sentiment": {"recommend": 4, "neutral": 1, "compare": 1, "warn": 1}, "spark": [0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 2], "listed": true, "loved": [], "caveat": "", "short_quote": "The thing I pay for is Tuta. The cheapest tier is way more generous than Proton and the product is simpler.", "icon": true, "domain": "tuta.com", "github_repo": null, "official_url": "https://tuta.com", "pricing": "", "aliases": ["Tuta", "Tuta Mail"], "verdict": null, "praise": [{"label": "", "summary": "", "quotes": [{"id": 804776880, "item_id": 50298555, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50298555", "by": "CircuitSeuss", "date": "2026-10-30", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Tuta does Mail and Calendar fairly well", "excerpt": "https://www.tuta.com/ Is the only other major player I am aware of\u2014 although they have a significantly smaller product lineup than Proton, and aren\u2019t as viable an alternative to Google for those who want a fully integrated suite. Tuta does Mail and Calendar fairly well, cant speak to their drive product. The other option is self hosting.", "context": "", "use_case": "email and calendar", "switched_from": "", "story": "Proton goes all in on using AI"}, {"id": 804642705, "item_id": 50290169, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50290169", "by": "Refreeze5224", "date": "2026-10-29", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "I've been using Tuta in parallel with Proton, and I will probably migrate over completely soon", "excerpt": "I no longer trust Proton after reading this. Chen seems like he has lost what the entire point of Protonmail was supposed to be, and now wants to become one of the Big Tech companies they were built to be an alternative to. He also seems like a two-faced bully. Email (and VPN, password manager, etc.) is far too sensitive to go as all-in as they want to do on AI. I've been using Tuta in parallel with Proton, and I wil", "context": "", "use_case": "email", "switched_from": "Proton", "story": "Manifestos, Fear, and 'Loser Thinking': Inside Proton's AI Reckoning"}, {"id": 792404256, "item_id": 49525266, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49525266", "by": "alexjplant", "date": "2026-09-01", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "I switched to Tuta this morning.", "excerpt": "I switched to Tuta this morning. I used to be a huge Proton advocate but multiple hour-plus downtimes in a week for e-mail is unacceptable. At this point I had better uptime running my own mail server on a VPS (or at least when the UI went down it was a simple `systemctl restart` away to fix it) and this was in the dark ages of having to manually rotate X.509 certs.", "context": "", "use_case": "email", "switched_from": "Proton", "story": "Proton Outage"}, {"id": 747676272, "item_id": 46729767, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46729767", "by": "causalscience", "date": "2026-01-22", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "The thing I pay for is Tuta. The cheapest tier is way more generous than Proton and the product is simpler.", "excerpt": "I only use Proton for the spam or temporary low value (and free) email accounts. Proton also tries to do everything, which I don't like. If I did I'd use Google. The thing I pay for is Tuta. The cheapest tier is way more generous than Proton and the product is simpler.", "context": "", "use_case": "paid email", "switched_from": "", "story": "Proton Spam and the AI Consent Problem"}]}], "caveats": [{"label": "", "summary": "", "quotes": [{"id": 775655392, "item_id": 48478462, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48478462", "by": "tcyrus", "date": "2026-06-10", "stance": "warn", "quote": "The E2EE behind Tuta Mail and Proton Mail are designed around vendor lock-in.", "excerpt": "The E2EE behind Tuta Mail and Proton Mail are designed around vendor lock-in. While I understand the reasoning behind the decision, it shows the intent behind both products. Proton Mail supports PGP encryption for external communications, but I believe Proton Mail Bridge still blocks users from sending PGP encrypted emails. The vendor lock-in is so bad that some Proton Official Emails (specifically Zendesk Support an", "context": "", "use_case": "encrypted email", "switched_from": "", "story": "Tuta and Proton: An Open Source Client Does Not Result in an Open Source Service"}]}], "who": [], "tags": [], "use_cases": ["email", "email and calendar", "encrypted email", "paid email"], "compared": [{"slug": "proton", "name": "Proton", "co": 8, "switched_from": 3, "switched_to": 0}], "makers": [{"id": 748502720, "item_id": 46781420, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46781420", "by": "Tutanota", "date": "2026-01-27", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Hey, Tuta Team here. If you're looking for one with unlimited addresses for a custom domain, check out Tuta Mail", "excerpt": "Hey, Tuta Team here. If you're looking for one with unlimited addresses for a custom domain, check out Tuta Mail: https://tuta.com", "context": "", "use_case": "email with custom domain", "switched_from": "", "story": "Ask HN: Best email service for custom domain?"}], "threads": [{"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50289692", "title": "Manifestos, Fear, and 'Loser Thinking': Inside Proton's AI Reckoning", "mentions": 2}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50296602", "title": "Proton goes all in on using AI", "mentions": 1}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49522158", "title": "Proton Outage", "mentions": 1}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48477223", "title": "Tuta and Proton: An Open Source Client Does Not Result in an Open Source Service", "mentions": 1}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46781144", "title": "Ask HN: Best email service for custom domain?", "mentions": 1}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46729368", "title": "Proton Spam and the AI Consent Problem", "mentions": 1}], "sentiment_by_month": {"2025-11": {}, "2025-12": {}, "2026-01": {"neutral": 1, "recommend": 1}, "2026-02": {}, "2026-03": {}, "2026-04": {}, "2026-05": {}, "2026-06": {"warn": 1}, "2026-07": {}, "2026-08": {}, "2026-09": {"recommend": 1}, "2026-10": {"recommend": 2, "compare": 1}}, "quotes": [{"id": 804817169, "item_id": 50301073, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50301073", "by": "drakonka", "date": "2026-10-30", "stance": "compare", "quote": "Is Tuta a reasonable alternative to investigate first?", "excerpt": "> \u201cPerception is more important than truth, the truth doesn\u2019t matter if you don\u2019t win on perception.\u201d Seeing this sentiment expressed by Proton's leadership may be enough for me to start transitioning away after eight years. Is Tuta a reasonable alternative to investigate first?", "context": "", "use_case": "email", "switched_from": "Proton", "story": "Manifestos, Fear, and 'Loser Thinking': Inside Proton's AI Reckoning"}, {"id": 804776880, "item_id": 50298555, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50298555", "by": "CircuitSeuss", "date": "2026-10-30", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Tuta does Mail and Calendar fairly well", "excerpt": "https://www.tuta.com/ Is the only other major player I am aware of\u2014 although they have a significantly smaller product lineup than Proton, and aren\u2019t as viable an alternative to Google for those who want a fully integrated suite. Tuta does Mail and Calendar fairly well, cant speak to their drive product. The other option is self hosting.", "context": "", "use_case": "email and calendar", "switched_from": "", "story": "Proton goes all in on using AI"}, {"id": 804642705, "item_id": 50290169, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50290169", "by": "Refreeze5224", "date": "2026-10-29", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "I've been using Tuta in parallel with Proton, and I will probably migrate over completely soon", "excerpt": "I no longer trust Proton after reading this. Chen seems like he has lost what the entire point of Protonmail was supposed to be, and now wants to become one of the Big Tech companies they were built to be an alternative to. He also seems like a two-faced bully. Email (and VPN, password manager, etc.) is far too sensitive to go as all-in as they want to do on AI. I've been using Tuta in parallel with Proton, and I wil", "context": "", "use_case": "email", "switched_from": "Proton", "story": "Manifestos, Fear, and 'Loser Thinking': Inside Proton's AI Reckoning"}, {"id": 792404256, "item_id": 49525266, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49525266", "by": "alexjplant", "date": "2026-09-01", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "I switched to Tuta this morning.", "excerpt": "I switched to Tuta this morning. I used to be a huge Proton advocate but multiple hour-plus downtimes in a week for e-mail is unacceptable. At this point I had better uptime running my own mail server on a VPS (or at least when the UI went down it was a simple `systemctl restart` away to fix it) and this was in the dark ages of having to manually rotate X.509 certs.", "context": "", "use_case": "email", "switched_from": "Proton", "story": "Proton Outage"}, {"id": 775655392, "item_id": 48478462, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48478462", "by": "tcyrus", "date": "2026-06-10", "stance": "warn", "quote": "The E2EE behind Tuta Mail and Proton Mail are designed around vendor lock-in.", "excerpt": "The E2EE behind Tuta Mail and Proton Mail are designed around vendor lock-in. While I understand the reasoning behind the decision, it shows the intent behind both products. Proton Mail supports PGP encryption for external communications, but I believe Proton Mail Bridge still blocks users from sending PGP encrypted emails. The vendor lock-in is so bad that some Proton Official Emails (specifically Zendesk Support an", "context": "", "use_case": "encrypted email", "switched_from": "", "story": "Tuta and Proton: An Open Source Client Does Not Result in an Open Source Service"}, {"id": 747676272, "item_id": 46729767, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46729767", "by": "causalscience", "date": "2026-01-22", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "The thing I pay for is Tuta. The cheapest tier is way more generous than Proton and the product is simpler.", "excerpt": "I only use Proton for the spam or temporary low value (and free) email accounts. Proton also tries to do everything, which I don't like. If I did I'd use Google. The thing I pay for is Tuta. The cheapest tier is way more generous than Proton and the product is simpler.", "context": "", "use_case": "paid email", "switched_from": "", "story": "Proton Spam and the AI Consent Problem"}, {"id": 747572200, "item_id": 46723262, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46723262", "by": "reify", "date": "2026-01-22", "stance": "neutral", "quote": "Protonmail, tutamail", "excerpt": "I dumped smart phone shite with CyanogenMod back in 2010. I still have an old Oneplus 5T running lineage with android 15 A samsung S4 with android 11 as my kitchen timer. My family have Motorola edge 20 and Motorola edge 20 pro both with android 16. https://doc.e.foundation/devices https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/ I personaly prefer Lineage over E.OS. I use droid-ify app store, which saves messing about with addin", "context": "", "use_case": "email", "switched_from": "", "story": "Ask HN: What is your opinion on non-mainstream mobile OS options (e.g. /e/OS)?"}]}