{"slug": "seedance", "name": "Seedance", "category": "ai", "category_name": "AI models and assistants", "description": "", "recommenders": 8, "commenters": 15, "warners": 1, "score": 7.903, "rising": 0.04, "first": "2026-02-08", "latest": "2026-10-06", "why": "showing an incredible level of image/video understanding and generation capability", "why_is_quote": true, "has_verdict": false, "sentiment": {"recommend": 8, "neutral": 4, "compare": 2, "warn": 1}, "spark": [0, 0, 0, 2, 0, 1, 1, 1, 0, 2, 0, 1], "listed": true, "loved": [], "caveat": "", "short_quote": "showing an incredible level of image/video understanding and generation capability", "kind": "", "icon": true, "domain": "bytedance.com", "github_repo": null, "official_url": "https://seed.bytedance.com/en/seedance", "pricing": "", "aliases": ["Seedance 2.0", "Seedance", "Seedance 2.5", "Seedance 2"], "verdict": null, "praise": [{"label": "", "summary": "", "quotes": [{"id": 799755744, "item_id": 49984734, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49984734", "by": "holoduke", "date": "2026-10-06", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Warner Bros should have used those billions to purchase products like seadance.", "excerpt": "In 1 or 2 years AI movies will be better in everything. From acting , to camera work to environments to story telling. Check out the quality of some of work already out there. There is a massive shift going on. China is going full speed mode. The film industry will be reshaped. Warner Bros should have used those billions to purchase products like seadance. Otherwise they are out", "context": "", "use_case": "AI video generation", "switched_from": "", "story": "Paramount Skydance has completed its $111B merger with Warner Bros. Discovery"}, {"id": 791542785, "item_id": 49471424, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49471424", "by": "najmuzzaman", "date": "2026-08-27", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "seedance is OP. it took our photos and turned them into pretty accurate lifelike AI clones", "excerpt": "we ended up with the most viral launch of our yc batch. this is how. 1. we broke the mold. five days before launch we did not have a video. every launch video in the batch looked the same. founder sits down, talks to camera, cuts to product shots, cuts back to founder. it works. it also disappears when four hundred companies do it in the same week. so we made a mini episode of the office instead. we sell an ai harnes", "context": "", "use_case": "AI video generation", "switched_from": "", "story": null}, {"id": 786254080, "item_id": 49140880, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49140880", "by": "1vuio0pswjnm7", "date": "2026-08-01", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "SeeDance 2.5 Is Stunning", "excerpt": "23 Jun 2026 03:31:03 UTC Seedance 2.5, generating a complete 30-second video in one go https://twitter.com/xiaohu/status/2069236441964818508 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48639900 [ok] 23 Jun 2026 03:53:32 UTC Seedance 2.5 pushes AI video toward references and control https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48640057 [flagged] [dead] 23 Jun 2026 04:47:30 UTC SeeDance 2.5 Is Stunning https://twitter.com/Long4AI/sta", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Seedance 2.5"}, {"id": 775057249, "item_id": 48441078, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48441078", "by": "adenta", "date": "2026-06-07", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "the cool kids are currently focused on Seedance 2", "excerpt": "We are still a bit of a ways away from being able to compile a script into a show. Also Veo 3.1 is old AF, it can't even do audio references! the cool kids are currently focused on Seedance 2. This is the most recent thing I put together (sry it's on LinkedIn, haven't posted the series elsewhere yet) https://www.linkedin.com/posts/adenta_episode-1-of-midwest-dads-is-out-now-follow-activity-7467231354250891264-zQPo I'", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "90210 \u2013 running the show without property tax"}, {"id": 771251361, "item_id": 48203210, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48203210", "by": "jackson_mile", "date": "2026-05-19", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "the performance of Gemini Omni Flash is still not as good as Seedance 2.0", "excerpt": "To be honest, I think the performance of Gemini Omni Flash is still not as good as Seedance 2.0. You can try using both models on this platform. https://omnivideoai.co", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Gemini Omni"}]}], "caveats": [{"label": "", "summary": "", "quotes": [{"id": 751009024, "item_id": 46938064, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46938064", "by": "yorwba", "date": "2026-02-08", "stance": "warn", "quote": "Pretty sure it's a scam to capitalize on excitement about a model", "excerpt": "Seedance 2.0 isn't even listed among ByteDance's models: https://seed.bytedance.com/en/models Pretty sure it's a scam to capitalize on excitement about a model that is expected to be released soon.", "context": "", "use_case": "AI video generation", "switched_from": "", "story": "Show HN: Try ByteDance's Seedance 2.0 AI video model"}]}], "who": [], "tags": [], "use_cases": ["ai video generation", "video generation model", "video generation"], "compared": [{"slug": "veo", "name": "Veo", "co": 2, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 0}, {"slug": "minimax", "name": "MiniMax", "co": 2, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 0}], "makers": [{"id": 751172784, "item_id": 46948299, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46948299", "by": "samidatikakr", "date": "2026-02-09", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "the model running behind it is the genuine Seedance 2.0. The output quality speaks for itself.", "excerpt": "I completely understand the skepticism, and honestly, I appreciate it \u2014 there are way too many fake sites riding the hype of new AI models.Let me be fully transparent about what I did:Seedance 2.0 is real, but ByteDance hasn't released the official API yet \u2014 that's expected around Feb 24th. So right now, there's no public API for anyone to build on.What I did was purchase premium accounts on the official platform, th", "context": "", "use_case": "AI video generation", "switched_from": "", "story": "Show HN: Try ByteDance's Seedance 2.0 AI video model"}], "threads": [{"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49138302", "title": "Seedance 2.5", "mentions": 4}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46935234", "title": "Show HN: Try ByteDance's Seedance 2.0 AI video model", "mentions": 2}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49983703", "title": "Paramount Skydance has completed its $111B merger with Warner Bros. Discovery", "mentions": 1}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49983582", "title": "Training Text-to-Image Models Without a VAE", "mentions": 1}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49471423", "title": "item 49471423", "mentions": 1}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48440811", "title": "90210 \u2013 running the show without property tax", "mentions": 1}], "sentiment_by_month": {"2025-11": {}, "2025-12": {}, "2026-01": {}, "2026-02": {"warn": 1, "neutral": 2, "recommend": 2}, "2026-03": {}, "2026-04": {"recommend": 1}, "2026-05": {"recommend": 1}, "2026-06": {"recommend": 1}, "2026-07": {}, "2026-08": {"compare": 1, "neutral": 2, "recommend": 2}, "2026-09": {}, "2026-10": {"compare": 1, "recommend": 1}}, "quotes": [{"id": 799755744, "item_id": 49984734, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49984734", "by": "holoduke", "date": "2026-10-06", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Warner Bros should have used those billions to purchase products like seadance.", "excerpt": "In 1 or 2 years AI movies will be better in everything. From acting , to camera work to environments to story telling. Check out the quality of some of work already out there. There is a massive shift going on. China is going full speed mode. The film industry will be reshaped. Warner Bros should have used those billions to purchase products like seadance. Otherwise they are out", "context": "", "use_case": "AI video generation", "switched_from": "", "story": "Paramount Skydance has completed its $111B merger with Warner Bros. Discovery"}, {"id": 799738688, "item_id": 49983668, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49983668", "by": "schopra909", "date": "2026-10-06", "stance": "compare", "quote": "unlike the big models today like Seedance, which cost an arm and a leg to run", "excerpt": "Hi HN, author here! For context, we're a 2-person lab training generative video models. Goal is a new set of controllable, animation tools (you can read more about that here https://www.linum.ai/about if you're curious). The biggest bottleneck for our last text-to-video model in terms of training and inference cost is attention. Video models are incredibly token dense (e.g. 110K tokens for a several second clip). If ", "context": "", "use_case": "video generation model", "switched_from": "", "story": "Training Text-to-Image Models Without a VAE"}, {"id": 791542785, "item_id": 49471424, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49471424", "by": "najmuzzaman", "date": "2026-08-27", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "seedance is OP. it took our photos and turned them into pretty accurate lifelike AI clones", "excerpt": "we ended up with the most viral launch of our yc batch. this is how. 1. we broke the mold. five days before launch we did not have a video. every launch video in the batch looked the same. founder sits down, talks to camera, cuts to product shots, cuts back to founder. it works. it also disappears when four hundred companies do it in the same week. so we made a mini episode of the office instead. we sell an ai harnes", "context": "", "use_case": "AI video generation", "switched_from": "", "story": null}, {"id": 786623681, "item_id": 49163980, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49163980", "by": "gunwooterry", "date": "2026-08-03", "stance": "neutral", "quote": "a mixture of Seedance and Beeble", "excerpt": "On carrying over actors' performance side, https://beeble.ai/ works pretty well. Friends from VFX are using a mixture of Seedance and Beeble (especially their SwitchX model)", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Seedance 2.5"}, {"id": 786254080, "item_id": 49140880, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49140880", "by": "1vuio0pswjnm7", "date": "2026-08-01", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "SeeDance 2.5 Is Stunning", "excerpt": "23 Jun 2026 03:31:03 UTC Seedance 2.5, generating a complete 30-second video in one go https://twitter.com/xiaohu/status/2069236441964818508 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48639900 [ok] 23 Jun 2026 03:53:32 UTC Seedance 2.5 pushes AI video toward references and control https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48640057 [flagged] [dead] 23 Jun 2026 04:47:30 UTC SeeDance 2.5 Is Stunning https://twitter.com/Long4AI/sta", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Seedance 2.5"}, {"id": 786241345, "item_id": 49140084, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49140084", "by": "thelucent", "date": "2026-08-01", "stance": "neutral", "quote": "IIRC they give Seedance 2.5 yesterday", "excerpt": "Dreamina (https://dreamina.capcut.com/) is the \u201cofficial\u201d access for this. IIRC they give Seedance 2.5 yesterday. Byteplus API is the official way to access it as an API but I am not sure if they serve 2.5 yet.", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Seedance 2.5"}, {"id": 786236832, "item_id": 49139802, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49139802", "by": "ronsor", "date": "2026-08-01", "stance": "compare", "quote": "Seedance 2.5 looks amazing", "excerpt": "Seedance 2.5 looks amazing, but MiniMax H3 is going to be open weights within 24 hours: https://fal.ai/minimax-h3. According to the ComfyUI team, it should even work acceptably on mid-range consumer GPUs like the 3080. I'd honestly take the slight quality hit for more control and lower costs.", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Seedance 2.5"}, {"id": 775057249, "item_id": 48441078, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48441078", "by": "adenta", "date": "2026-06-07", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "the cool kids are currently focused on Seedance 2", "excerpt": "We are still a bit of a ways away from being able to compile a script into a show. Also Veo 3.1 is old AF, it can't even do audio references! the cool kids are currently focused on Seedance 2. This is the most recent thing I put together (sry it's on LinkedIn, haven't posted the series elsewhere yet) https://www.linkedin.com/posts/adenta_episode-1-of-midwest-dads-is-out-now-follow-activity-7467231354250891264-zQPo I'", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "90210 \u2013 running the show without property tax"}, {"id": 771251361, "item_id": 48203210, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48203210", "by": "jackson_mile", "date": "2026-05-19", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "the performance of Gemini Omni Flash is still not as good as Seedance 2.0", "excerpt": "To be honest, I think the performance of Gemini Omni Flash is still not as good as Seedance 2.0. You can try using both models on this platform. https://omnivideoai.co", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Gemini Omni"}, {"id": 764397314, "item_id": 47774832, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47774832", "by": "echelon", "date": "2026-04-14", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Seedance 2.0 stands out as an almost order of magnitude improvement", "excerpt": "Veo 3 is one of the weaker video models, surprisingly! Google and OpenAI are both really far behind the Chinese at this point. Perhaps Google will unveil something groundbreaking at Google I/O, but both companies have been trailing for well over a year at this point. One of the reasons OpenAI gave up was not only were they losing money, but they were also ridiculously far behind (11th or below in the rankings). The m", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "OpenAI's $852B valuation faces investor scrutiny amid strategy shift, FT reports"}, {"id": 754690800, "item_id": 47168175, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47168175", "by": "Mizza", "date": "2026-02-26", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Check out Seedance 2", "excerpt": "Check out Seedance 2: https://seed.bytedance.com/en/seedance2_0 Nano Banana was technically impressive the first time, but after Seedance it's not really. It's all just an internet pollution machine anyway.", "context": "", "use_case": "AI video generation", "switched_from": "", "story": "Nano Banana 2: Google's latest AI image generation model"}, {"id": 752475443, "item_id": 47029715, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47029715", "by": "nsainsbury", "date": "2026-02-15", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "showing an incredible level of image/video understanding and generation capability", "excerpt": "I used to also believe along these lines but lately I'm not so sure. I'm honestly shocked by the latest results we're seeing with Gemini 3 Deep Think, Opus 4.6, and Codex 5.3 in math, coding, abstract reasoning, etc. Deep Think just scored 84.6% on ARC-AGI-2 (https://deepmind.google/models/gemini/)! And these benchmarks are supported by my own experimentation and testing with these models ~ specifically most recently", "context": "", "use_case": "video generation", "switched_from": "", "story": "I don't think AGI is imminent"}, {"id": 752378464, "item_id": 47023654, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47023654", "by": "treetalker", "date": "2026-02-15", "stance": "neutral", "quote": "created with Seedance 2.0", "excerpt": "\"Anakin Datacenters\" meme video, created with Seedance 2.0: https://xcancel.com/charliebcurran/status/2022463429823598999", "context": "", "use_case": "AI video generation", "switched_from": "", "story": "'It's over for us': release of AI video generator Seedance 2.0 spooks Hollywood"}, {"id": 751981520, "item_id": 46998845, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46998845", "by": "jessji", "date": "2026-02-12", "stance": "neutral", "quote": "I documented 25 tested prompts following this pattern", "excerpt": "Great breakdown of the segment-based approach. The prompt structure you described (scene description, key actions, starting/ending pose, timestamps) lines up with what works best \u2014 subject first, then camera, then lighting/audio cues. I documented 25 tested prompts following this pattern if anyone wants ready-to-use templates: https://seedanceguide.com/blog/best-seedance-2-0-prompts", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "I completed the MV in one day. Below is a detailed breakdown of how it was done"}, {"id": 751981456, "item_id": 46998841, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46998841", "by": "jessji", "date": "2026-02-12", "stance": "neutral", "quote": "That's the actual product page where you can try the model.", "excerpt": "The official international platform is Dreamina: https://dreamina.capcut.com/tools/seedance-2-0 That's the actual product page where you can try the model. It launched globally on Feb 12. For a structured walkthrough (account setup, prompt structure, the @ reference system), I put together a guide here: https://seedanceguide.com/tutorial", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Seedance 2.0 preview: The best video model of 2026, outperforming Sora 2"}, {"id": 751009024, "item_id": 46938064, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46938064", "by": "yorwba", "date": "2026-02-08", "stance": "warn", "quote": "Pretty sure it's a scam to capitalize on excitement about a model", "excerpt": "Seedance 2.0 isn't even listed among ByteDance's models: https://seed.bytedance.com/en/models Pretty sure it's a scam to capitalize on excitement about a model that is expected to be released soon.", "context": "", "use_case": "AI video generation", "switched_from": "", "story": "Show HN: Try ByteDance's Seedance 2.0 AI video model"}]}