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When I created the meeting invite in my proton calendar, the meet link was automatically inserted. No more need for Jitsi for me.", "context": "", "use_case": "customer demos and video calls", "switched_from": "Jitsi", "story": "Proton Meet: Secure, end-to-end encrypted video conferencing"}]}], "caveats": [{"label": "", "summary": "", "quotes": [{"id": 768769136, "item_id": 48048071, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48048071", "by": "ZoneZealot", "date": "2026-05-07", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "The metadata of any Meet call could be handed to USA authorities", "excerpt": "Proton Meet relies entirely on LiveKit Cloud (USA based) to run https://proton.me/meet/privacy-policy LiveKit Cloud uses virtual compute and networking across multiple (USA based) cloud providers. DigitalOcean, Google and Oracle at minimum. They each have servers all of the world of course, but the controlling entity(s) parent companies are all based in the USA. 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People get it, book with success, and I run those calls on Proton Meet, which also proved to work pretty well.", "context": "", "use_case": "video calls", "switched_from": "", "story": "Proton Meet"}, {"id": 763461426, "item_id": 47716339, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47716339", "by": "teekert", "date": "2026-04-10", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Especially now we have Proton Meet", "excerpt": "I consider myself a Power User, use of Windows is not friction free :) Over the years I've come to believe that there is only one thing important: What you are used to. The friction is in the change process. Not in the destination. As an independent, I have several customers on MS365, you know what my super power is? FireFox cookie containers. One for each org, and I switch with 0 effort between the orgs. No need for", "context": "", "use_case": "video calls", "switched_from": "", "story": "France Launches Government Linux Desktop Plan as Windows Exit Begins"}, {"id": 762001232, "item_id": 47625077, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47625077", "by": "neya", "date": "2026-04-03", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "The company routing them hands your call records to the government when asked.", "excerpt": "Home page boldly claims: EuRopE dOeS iT BeTtEr. There is literally a story trending on HN right now: Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises \"not even government agencies\" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy. This superiority complex ne", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Show HN: European alternatives to Google, Apple, Dropbox and 120 US apps"}, {"id": 761999361, "item_id": 47624960, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47624960", "by": "Imustaskforhelp", "date": "2026-04-03", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "Proton Meet might be omitting somethings", "excerpt": "I once did some tinkering with Proton Docs and I was able to find that the comments within Proton Docs when I used it via curl definitely felt like it had something like logs (I feel like I should try doing this again to have more definitive answer) Either way, the response was encrypted but they hold the encryption key atleast within proton-docs. 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It's not against the law to say \"We don't have any ", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Proton Meet"}, {"id": 750047681, "item_id": 46877980, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46877980", "by": "teekert", "date": "2026-02-03", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "https://meet.proton.me should also be ready for action soon.", "excerpt": "https://meet.proton.me should also be ready for action soon.", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "France dumps Zoom and Teams as Europe seeks digital autonomy from the US"}, {"id": 736875056, "item_id": 46054691, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46054691", "by": "bitbasher", "date": "2025-11-25", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "my customer was able to join without an account and it was all in browser", "excerpt": "I used it for a product demo and my customer was able to join without an account and it was all in browser. When I created the meeting invite in my proton calendar, the meet link was automatically inserted. No more need for Jitsi for me.", "context": "", "use_case": "customer demos and video calls", "switched_from": "Jitsi", "story": "Proton Meet: Secure, end-to-end encrypted video conferencing"}]}