{"slug": "orderless", "name": "Orderless", "category": "editors", "category_name": "Editors and IDEs", "description": "", "recommenders": 2, "commenters": 3, "warners": 0, "score": 1.888, "rising": -0.65, "first": "2025-11-01", "latest": "2026-10-28", "why": "corfu+marginalia+vertico+embark+orderless is the standard completion stack now", "why_is_quote": true, "has_verdict": false, "sentiment": {"recommend": 2, "neutral": 1, "compare": 0, "warn": 0}, "spark": [2, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0], "listed": false, "loved": [], "caveat": "", "short_quote": "corfu+marginalia+vertico+embark+orderless is the standard completion stack now", "icon": false, "domain": null, "github_repo": null, "official_url": "", "pricing": "", "aliases": ["Orderless"], "verdict": null, "praise": [{"label": "", "summary": "", "quotes": [{"id": 732548646, "item_id": 45784290, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45784290", "by": "foobarqux", "date": "2025-11-01", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "corfu+marginalia+vertico+embark+orderless is the standard completion stack now", "excerpt": "Don't use doom etc, just standard emacs, otherwise you won't have any understanding of what is happening and how to fix it. Here's a list of what I think is important, roughly more important to less: - corfu+marginalia+vertico+embark+orderless is the standard completion stack now - magit (maybe also see also the \"casual\" the transient front end for other modes) - avy - (fset 'yes-or-no-p 'y-or-n-p) ; 'Y' or 'N' inste", "context": "", "use_case": "Emacs completion", "switched_from": "", "story": "Ask HN: Where to begin with \"modern\" Emacs?"}, {"id": 732540579, "item_id": 45783786, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45783786", "by": "mijoharas", "date": "2025-11-01", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "which is a composition of consult, orderless, vertico, and embark.", "excerpt": "I've been using emacs for a decade by now. I'd look into spacemacs (what I use). It's similar to doom, in that it makes some decisions for you, but you can very much have a customized experience. I for instance have a lot of \"stock\" sections, and other things that are very customized that I've made myself. Look into the \"layers\" (sets of packages that work together). 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This helped me move on from using Spacemacs to making my own configuration. I no longer use Helm (I'm doing Vertico/Orderless/Consult), but I've stuck with Org-mode since then. I sometimes venture out to other apps (like Joplin, Obsidian, Apple Notes, Apple Reminders, etc), but Org-mode just works best for ", "context": "", "use_case": "Emacs completion", "switched_from": "Helm", "story": "Emacs Turns 50"}, {"id": 732548646, "item_id": 45784290, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45784290", "by": "foobarqux", "date": "2025-11-01", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "corfu+marginalia+vertico+embark+orderless is the standard completion stack now", "excerpt": "Don't use doom etc, just standard emacs, otherwise you won't have any understanding of what is happening and how to fix it. 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Look into the \"layers\" (sets of packages that work together). I'd particularly recommend checking out the comple", "context": "", "use_case": "Emacs completion", "switched_from": "", "story": "Ask HN: Where to begin with \"modern\" Emacs?"}]}