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Check out the OLMo family from the Allen Institute for AI: https://allenai.org/blog/olmo3 Also worth looking at EleutherAI, LLM360, SmolLM, Apertus. Apterus even respects opt-out notices in their collection of the dataset they distribute. KL3M from Kelvin Legal is even trained on a 100% copyright-free legal/govern", "context": "", "use_case": "fully open training data models", "switched_from": "", "story": "Chatto is now Open Source"}, {"id": 780220000, "item_id": 48763750, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48763750", "by": "c7b", "date": "2026-07-02", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "ethically sourced, open source LLMs exist! Check out eg Olmo by Allen AI", "excerpt": "I'm saying, either you have a problem with the copyright issues related to AI training or you don't. If you do, neither Qwen nor Claude are acceptable, if not then both are. They have equal moral standing to me. Btw, ethically sourced, open source LLMs exist! Check out eg Olmo by Allen AI: https://allenai.org/olmo", "context": "", "use_case": "ethically sourced open LLM", "switched_from": "", "story": "Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot"}, {"id": 775862720, "item_id": 48491420, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48491420", "by": "aesthesia", "date": "2026-06-11", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Olmo and to a lesser extent Nemotron are what you should look at", "excerpt": "If you really want to see fully open training pipelines for modern LLMs, Olmo and to a lesser extent Nemotron are what you should look at. https://github.com/allenai/OLMo https://github.com/NVIDIA-NeMo/Nemotron", "context": "", "use_case": "fully open LLM training pipelines", "switched_from": "", "story": "Open Reproduction of DeepSeek-R1"}]}], "caveats": [{"label": "", "summary": "", "quotes": [{"id": 781438864, "item_id": 48839929, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48839929", "by": "kajika91", "date": "2026-07-08", "stance": "warn", "quote": "This olmo uses random data of totally infringing license database such a StackEdu", "excerpt": "> Check out the OLMo family from the Allen Institute for AI: https://allenai.org/blog/olmo3 Is this a joke of just blatant publicity for this Billionaire \"philanthropist\"? This olmo uses random data of totally infringing license database such a StackEdu (https://huggingface.co/datasets/HuggingFaceTB/stack-edu). I took this first dataset from what olmo claim to use and check a random used data -> https://github.com/ro", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Chatto is now Open Source"}]}], "who": [], "tags": [], "use_cases": ["fully open training data models", "ethically sourced open llm", "fully open llm training pipelines"], "compared": [], "makers": [], "threads": [{"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48833116", "title": "Chatto is now Open Source", "mentions": 2}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48756602", "title": "Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot", "mentions": 1}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48489917", "title": "Open Reproduction of DeepSeek-R1", "mentions": 1}], "sentiment_by_month": {"2025-11": {}, "2025-12": {}, "2026-01": {}, "2026-02": {}, "2026-03": {}, "2026-04": {}, "2026-05": {}, "2026-06": {"recommend": 1}, "2026-07": {"recommend": 2, "warn": 1}, "2026-08": {}, "2026-09": {}, "2026-10": {}}, "quotes": [{"id": 781438864, "item_id": 48839929, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48839929", "by": "kajika91", "date": "2026-07-08", "stance": "warn", "quote": "This olmo uses random data of totally infringing license database such a StackEdu", "excerpt": "> Check out the OLMo family from the Allen Institute for AI: https://allenai.org/blog/olmo3 Is this a joke of just blatant publicity for this Billionaire \"philanthropist\"? This olmo uses random data of totally infringing license database such a StackEdu (https://huggingface.co/datasets/HuggingFaceTB/stack-edu). I took this first dataset from what olmo claim to use and check a random used data -> https://github.com/ro", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Chatto is now Open Source"}, {"id": 781423040, "item_id": 48838940, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48838940", "by": "anonym29", "date": "2026-07-08", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Check out the OLMo family from the Allen Institute for AI", "excerpt": ">I'm not aware of any models with full training data available, let alone available with full licensing. Check out the OLMo family from the Allen Institute for AI: https://allenai.org/blog/olmo3 Also worth looking at EleutherAI, LLM360, SmolLM, Apertus. Apterus even respects opt-out notices in their collection of the dataset they distribute. 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Check out eg Olmo by Allen AI: https://allenai.org/olmo", "context": "", "use_case": "ethically sourced open LLM", "switched_from": "", "story": "Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot"}, {"id": 775862720, "item_id": 48491420, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48491420", "by": "aesthesia", "date": "2026-06-11", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Olmo and to a lesser extent Nemotron are what you should look at", "excerpt": "If you really want to see fully open training pipelines for modern LLMs, Olmo and to a lesser extent Nemotron are what you should look at. https://github.com/allenai/OLMo https://github.com/NVIDIA-NeMo/Nemotron", "context": "", "use_case": "fully open LLM training pipelines", "switched_from": "", "story": "Open Reproduction of DeepSeek-R1"}]}