{"slug": "mistral", "name": "Mistral", "category": "ai", "category_name": "AI models and assistants", "description": "French AI company offering open-weight and commercial language models, the Le Chat assistant, and an API.", "recommenders": 15, "commenters": 26, "warners": 2, "score": 13.935, "rising": -2.25, "first": "2025-12-10", "latest": "2026-10-29", "why": "HN commenters use it as an affordable European alternative to US AI labs that is good enough for everyday chat, coding and narrow tasks like OCR.", "why_is_quote": false, "has_verdict": true, "sentiment": {"recommend": 16, "neutral": 8, "compare": 2, "warn": 2}, "spark": [0, 0, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 1, 3, 0, 1, 1], "listed": true, "loved": ["Low cost", "European alternative"], "caveat": "Behind frontier", "short_quote": "I use it as my workhorse for coding and general chat questions, because it's good enough 80% of the time", "icon": true, "domain": "speechmap.ai", "github_repo": null, "official_url": "https://mistral.ai", "pricing": "freemium", "aliases": ["Mistral", "Mistral API"], "verdict": [{"text": "HN commenters use it as an affordable European alternative to US AI labs", "cites": [{"id": 779878368, "item_id": 48742398, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48742398", "by": "psalaun", "date": "2026-06-30", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "I use it as my workhorse for coding and general chat questions, because it's good enough 80% of the time", "excerpt": "I use it as my workhorse for coding and general chat questions, because it's good enough 80% of the time, and indeed it's french/european (with heavy US capital tho...). We complain too much about not having enough major competitors in the IT space, to not support a burgeoning one even if it's less powerful than SOTA labs", "context": "", "use_case": "coding and general chat", "switched_from": "", "story": "Leanstral 1.5"}, {"id": 773216752, "item_id": 48326047, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48326047", "by": "simonw", "date": "2026-05-29", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Mistral leaning into on-prem and European-hosted models is very smart.", "excerpt": "> BNP Paribas runs Mistral models on-prem for KYC in Belgium, with sensitive data staying within the bank's walls. Abanca is using agent orchestration to handle sensitive customer information at a huge scale (2 million customers in their app). For European companies in regulated industries, this is a good alternative to relying on US hyperscalers. 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It isn't that bad, but neither the best.", "context": "", "use_case": "LLM API", "switched_from": "", "story": "Leanstral 1.5"}, {"id": 780530512, "item_id": 48783157, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48783157", "by": "InsideOutSanta", "date": "2026-07-03", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "I do a lot of OCR, file analysis, stuff like that. I use Mistral for that.", "excerpt": "There's a lot of criticism of Mistral being unable to compete with large model, and that's fair. But I think it dismisses what Mistral is actually doing, which is making specific capabilities available at high quality in tiny models. I do a lot of OCR, file analysis, stuff like that. I use Mistral for that. I put 100$ into my account, and it just runs for a year without any worries about the amount of requests I make", "context": "", "use_case": "OCR and file analysis", "switched_from": "", "story": "Leanstral 1.5: Proof Abundance for All"}]}, {"text": " that is good enough for everyday chat, coding and narrow tasks like OCR.", "cites": [{"id": 779878368, "item_id": 48742398, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48742398", "by": "psalaun", "date": "2026-06-30", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "I use it as my workhorse for coding and general chat questions, because it's good enough 80% of the time", "excerpt": "I use it as my workhorse for coding and general chat questions, because it's good enough 80% of the time, and indeed it's french/european (with heavy US capital tho...). We complain too much about not having enough major competitors in the IT space, to not support a burgeoning one even if it's less powerful than SOTA labs", "context": "", "use_case": "coding and general chat", "switched_from": "", "story": "Leanstral 1.5"}, {"id": 754707955, "item_id": 47169247, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47169247", "by": "anonzzzies", "date": "2026-02-26", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Mistral works quite well on smaller issues.", "excerpt": "Gemini is supposed to have this huge context; Gemini cli (paid) often forgets by the next prompt whatever the previous was about and starts doing something completely different , often switching natural or programming language. I use codex and with 5.3 it is better but not there compared to cc for us anyway; it just goes looking for stuff, draws the most bizarre conclusions and ends up lost quite often doing the wron", "context": "", "use_case": "smaller coding issues", "switched_from": "", "story": "Why Developers Keep Choosing Claude over Every Other AI"}, {"id": 780530512, "item_id": 48783157, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48783157", "by": "InsideOutSanta", "date": "2026-07-03", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "I do a lot of OCR, file analysis, stuff like that. I use Mistral for that.", "excerpt": "There's a lot of criticism of Mistral being unable to compete with large model, and that's fair. But I think it dismisses what Mistral is actually doing, which is making specific capabilities available at high quality in tiny models. I do a lot of OCR, file analysis, stuff like that. I use Mistral for that. I put 100$ into my account, and it just runs for a year without any worries about the amount of requests I make", "context": "", "use_case": "OCR and file analysis", "switched_from": "", "story": "Leanstral 1.5: Proof Abundance for All"}, {"id": 773425952, "item_id": 48339122, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48339122", "by": "barrell", "date": "2026-05-30", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "mistral was both faster, cheaper, and substantially better than any alternative", "excerpt": "I think it really depends on what you\u2019re doing. I use mistral for many tasks in https://phrasing.app and they blow models many times their size out of the water. None of my tasks use reasoning though (reasoning actually kills the performance) so perhaps that\u2019s why. Still, I just had to rewrite my pipeline, and mistral was both faster, cheaper, and substantially better than any alternative", "context": "builds phrasing.app", "use_case": "non-reasoning tasks in their app pipeline", "switched_from": "", "story": "Notes from the Mistral AI Now Summit in Paris"}]}, {"text": " The most common complaint is that its models trail frontier models from US labs", "cites": [{"id": 776696208, "item_id": 48543513, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48543513", "by": "SyneRyder", "date": "2026-06-15", "stance": "warn", "quote": "it is so far behind the American models that I just never bother using it", "excerpt": "I've tried using Mistral for various tasks, and it is so far behind the American models that I just never bother using it despite still having lots of Mistral API credits leftover. Even their OCR and TTS products are surpassed by generic US models - I use regular Claude Sonnet for OCR because it is more accurate than Mistral OCR. I could rant about this, I am just so disappointed at how Mistral completely gave up and", "context": "", "use_case": "various tasks", "switched_from": "", "story": "Show HN: Can Europe train a frontier AI model on the compute it owns?"}, {"id": 765785008, "item_id": 47861563, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47861563", "by": "phillc73", "date": "2026-04-22", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "I like it, but I haven't used Opus so it's hard to compare.", "excerpt": "I like it, but I haven't used Opus so it's hard to compare. From the benchmarks I've seen, Mistral's offerings are right up there with other open source options, but not quite at the frontier with closed source models.", "context": "", "use_case": "Claude Code alternative", "switched_from": "", "story": "Ask HN: Claude Code Alternative"}, {"id": 793734081, "item_id": 49608380, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49608380", "by": "brokegrammer", "date": "2026-09-08", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "I love Mistral and I use it whenever I don't care about quality.", "excerpt": "I love Mistral and I use it whenever I don't care about quality. For example, it's my go to model for generating git commit messages by leveraging their free codestral model. I wouldn't pay for it though.", "context": "", "use_case": "low-stakes tasks", "switched_from": "", "story": "Mistral raises \u20ac3B"}, {"id": 797868259, "item_id": 49866766, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49866766", "by": "KlyX", "date": "2026-09-27", "stance": "neutral", "quote": "Would love to use Mistral more (as EU alternative), but my last test (though quite a while ago) I was a bit disappointed.", "excerpt": "I mostly use Claude - model depends and goes from Sonnet up to Fable (mostly Opus right now, Sonnet for easier task and Fable only seldom for very specific). Workplace-related we use ChatGPT 5.4/5 with LibreChat as Chatlayer. Would love to use Mistral more (as EU alternative), but my last test (though quite a while ago) I was a bit disappointed. May look into it again soon.", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Ask HN: Which model do you use for work?"}]}, {"text": " and even older open Qwen models.", "cites": [{"id": 793835360, "item_id": 49614710, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49614710", "by": "moffkalast", "date": "2026-09-08", "stance": "warn", "quote": "I don't think any Mistral model can match an open 30B-sized Qwen from a year ago, so right now they're not really a competitive alternative to anything at all.", "excerpt": "I don't think any Mistral model can match an open 30B-sized Qwen from a year ago, so right now they're not really a competitive alternative to anything at all. Except Voxtral perhaps, but that's very niche.", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Mistral raises \u20ac3B"}]}], "praise": [{"label": "Low cost", "summary": "Commenters say the API is cheap, and they use free tiers or free access for light work.", "quotes": [{"id": 780530512, "item_id": 48783157, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48783157", "by": "InsideOutSanta", "date": "2026-07-03", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "I do a lot of OCR, file analysis, stuff like that. I use Mistral for that.", "excerpt": "There's a lot of criticism of Mistral being unable to compete with large model, and that's fair. But I think it dismisses what Mistral is actually doing, which is making specific capabilities available at high quality in tiny models. I do a lot of OCR, file analysis, stuff like that. I use Mistral for that. I put 100$ into my account, and it just runs for a year without any worries about the amount of requests I make", "context": "", "use_case": "OCR and file analysis", "switched_from": "", "story": "Leanstral 1.5: Proof Abundance for All"}, {"id": 779851328, "item_id": 48740708, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48740708", "by": "evilmonkey19", "date": "2026-06-30", "stance": "neutral", "quote": "I use it because EU and API pricing is decent to me. And support is awesome also.", "excerpt": "I use it because EU and API pricing is decent to me. And support is awesome also. They reply the same day or at most the next day, and they follow the ticket great. It isn't that bad, but neither the best.", "context": "", "use_case": "LLM API", "switched_from": "", "story": "Leanstral 1.5"}, {"id": 793734081, "item_id": 49608380, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49608380", "by": "brokegrammer", "date": "2026-09-08", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "I love Mistral and I use it whenever I don't care about quality.", "excerpt": "I love Mistral and I use it whenever I don't care about quality. For example, it's my go to model for generating git commit messages by leveraging their free codestral model. I wouldn't pay for it though.", "context": "", "use_case": "low-stakes tasks", "switched_from": "", "story": "Mistral raises \u20ac3B"}]}, {"label": "European alternative", "summary": "Commenters value it as an EU-based option, especially for regulated European companies.", "quotes": [{"id": 773216752, "item_id": 48326047, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48326047", "by": "simonw", "date": "2026-05-29", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Mistral leaning into on-prem and European-hosted models is very smart.", "excerpt": "> BNP Paribas runs Mistral models on-prem for KYC in Belgium, with sensitive data staying within the bank's walls. Abanca is using agent orchestration to handle sensitive customer information at a huge scale (2 million customers in their app). For European companies in regulated industries, this is a good alternative to relying on US hyperscalers. Mistral leaning into on-prem and European-hosted models is very smart.", "context": "", "use_case": "on-prem models for regulated industries", "switched_from": "", "story": "Notes from the Mistral AI Now Summit in Paris"}, {"id": 779878368, "item_id": 48742398, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48742398", "by": "psalaun", "date": "2026-06-30", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "I use it as my workhorse for coding and general chat questions, because it's good enough 80% of the time", "excerpt": "I use it as my workhorse for coding and general chat questions, because it's good enough 80% of the time, and indeed it's french/european (with heavy US capital tho...). We complain too much about not having enough major competitors in the IT space, to not support a burgeoning one even if it's less powerful than SOTA labs", "context": "", "use_case": "coding and general chat", "switched_from": "", "story": "Leanstral 1.5"}, {"id": 779851328, "item_id": 48740708, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48740708", "by": "evilmonkey19", "date": "2026-06-30", "stance": "neutral", "quote": "I use it because EU and API pricing is decent to me. And support is awesome also.", "excerpt": "I use it because EU and API pricing is decent to me. And support is awesome also. They reply the same day or at most the next day, and they follow the ticket great. It isn't that bad, but neither the best.", "context": "", "use_case": "LLM API", "switched_from": "", "story": "Leanstral 1.5"}]}, {"label": "Good enough", "summary": "Commenters find it sufficient for most everyday chat, coding and smaller tasks.", "quotes": [{"id": 779878368, "item_id": 48742398, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48742398", "by": "psalaun", "date": "2026-06-30", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "I use it as my workhorse for coding and general chat questions, because it's good enough 80% of the time", "excerpt": "I use it as my workhorse for coding and general chat questions, because it's good enough 80% of the time, and indeed it's french/european (with heavy US capital tho...). We complain too much about not having enough major competitors in the IT space, to not support a burgeoning one even if it's less powerful than SOTA labs", "context": "", "use_case": "coding and general chat", "switched_from": "", "story": "Leanstral 1.5"}, {"id": 754707955, "item_id": 47169247, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47169247", "by": "anonzzzies", "date": "2026-02-26", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Mistral works quite well on smaller issues.", "excerpt": "Gemini is supposed to have this huge context; Gemini cli (paid) often forgets by the next prompt whatever the previous was about and starts doing something completely different , often switching natural or programming language. I use codex and with 5.3 it is better but not there compared to cc for us anyway; it just goes looking for stuff, draws the most bizarre conclusions and ends up lost quite often doing the wron", "context": "", "use_case": "smaller coding issues", "switched_from": "", "story": "Why Developers Keep Choosing Claude over Every Other AI"}, {"id": 780781873, "item_id": 48798867, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48798867", "by": "delis-thumbs-7e", "date": "2026-07-05", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Now I use just Mistral and local Vibethinker-3B, but they work just fine.", "excerpt": "I currently study Multivariate Calculus by using very new and nodern method: I read the text book, while solving the examples of the general for,ulas, or try to come up with my own. Then I do a s$ht-ton of exercises. I only use LLM\u2019s to quickly clarify confusing topics or notation, but not really much else. I cancelled my Claude subscription. Now I use just Mistral and local Vibethinker-3B, but they work just fine. E", "context": "studying multivariate calculus", "use_case": "clarifying math topics", "switched_from": "Claude", "story": "New AI tutor achieves 0.71-1.30 SD effect size in Dartmouth course [pdf]"}]}, {"label": "Specialized tasks", "summary": "Some commenters report strong results on narrow tasks like OCR, file analysis and non-reasoning pipelines.", "quotes": [{"id": 780530512, "item_id": 48783157, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48783157", "by": "InsideOutSanta", "date": "2026-07-03", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "I do a lot of OCR, file analysis, stuff like that. I use Mistral for that.", "excerpt": "There's a lot of criticism of Mistral being unable to compete with large model, and that's fair. But I think it dismisses what Mistral is actually doing, which is making specific capabilities available at high quality in tiny models. I do a lot of OCR, file analysis, stuff like that. I use Mistral for that. I put 100$ into my account, and it just runs for a year without any worries about the amount of requests I make", "context": "", "use_case": "OCR and file analysis", "switched_from": "", "story": "Leanstral 1.5: Proof Abundance for All"}, {"id": 773425952, "item_id": 48339122, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48339122", "by": "barrell", "date": "2026-05-30", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "mistral was both faster, cheaper, and substantially better than any alternative", "excerpt": "I think it really depends on what you\u2019re doing. I use mistral for many tasks in https://phrasing.app and they blow models many times their size out of the water. None of my tasks use reasoning though (reasoning actually kills the performance) so perhaps that\u2019s why. Still, I just had to rewrite my pipeline, and mistral was both faster, cheaper, and substantially better than any alternative", "context": "builds phrasing.app", "use_case": "non-reasoning tasks in their app pipeline", "switched_from": "", "story": "Notes from the Mistral AI Now Summit in Paris"}]}, {"label": "Privacy", "summary": "Commenters mention privacy through Proton's Mistral-based Lumo, and one considers switching to Mistral for privacy.", "quotes": [{"id": 752383443, "item_id": 47023965, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47023965", "by": "mark_l_watson", "date": "2026-02-15", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "use of a strong Mistral model", "excerpt": "Great writeup. Glenn mentions that he stopped using Gemini. While I still use Gemini for technical research and occasional coding/design work via Antigravity, for all day to day queries and prompts I have switched to using Proton's Lumo that is really quite good: use of a strong Mistral model and web search is 100% private, and while chat history is preserved for a while it is stored and processed like Proton Mail. M", "context": "", "use_case": "model behind Lumo", "switched_from": "", "story": "Amazon, Google Unwittingly Reveal the Severity of the U.S. Surveillance State"}, {"id": 766737349, "item_id": 47921084, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47921084", "by": "mark_l_watson", "date": "2026-04-27", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "I wish Mistral good luck, and I like their deployed forward engineers approach to business.", "excerpt": "Indirectly I use Mistral daily: I like Proton\u2019s Lumo private chat and that runs on Mistral technology. Something like Lumo is very much good enough to replace search and general information browsing and for me is very practical. What is not so practical is my paying for Gemini Ultra, which has some practicality but is something I pay for because it is fun using strong AIs like Claude and Gemini Pro in AntiGravity. It", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "France's Mistral Built a $14B AI Empire by Not Being American"}, {"id": 769517906, "item_id": 48094869, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48094869", "by": "smnscu", "date": "2026-05-11", "stance": "compare", "quote": "though I may switch to Mistral to stay on the better side of privacy", "excerpt": "I'm working on Coderbase (https://coderba.se/), a platform for running technical interviews. It started with live interviews cuz that's what I know best, having run over 3,000 interviews in my career, but I made it easy af to run this yourself too. I initially pictured it as a tech-heavy product (and it is), but my second client is a large recruitment agency that's using it both for internal interviews (for recruiter", "context": "", "use_case": "interview scoring drafts", "switched_from": "", "story": "Ask HN: What Are You Working On? (May 2026)"}]}, {"label": "Responsive support", "summary": "One commenter says support replies within a day and follows up on tickets well.", "quotes": [{"id": 779851328, "item_id": 48740708, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48740708", "by": "evilmonkey19", "date": "2026-06-30", "stance": "neutral", "quote": "I use it because EU and API pricing is decent to me. And support is awesome also.", "excerpt": "I use it because EU and API pricing is decent to me. And support is awesome also. They reply the same day or at most the next day, and they follow the ticket great. It isn't that bad, but neither the best.", "context": "", "use_case": "LLM API", "switched_from": "", "story": "Leanstral 1.5"}]}], "caveats": [{"label": "Behind frontier", "summary": "Several commenters say the models lag well behind top US and Chinese models.", "quotes": [{"id": 776696208, "item_id": 48543513, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48543513", "by": "SyneRyder", "date": "2026-06-15", "stance": "warn", "quote": "it is so far behind the American models that I just never bother using it", "excerpt": "I've tried using Mistral for various tasks, and it is so far behind the American models that I just never bother using it despite still having lots of Mistral API credits leftover. Even their OCR and TTS products are surpassed by generic US models - I use regular Claude Sonnet for OCR because it is more accurate than Mistral OCR. I could rant about this, I am just so disappointed at how Mistral completely gave up and", "context": "", "use_case": "various tasks", "switched_from": "", "story": "Show HN: Can Europe train a frontier AI model on the compute it owns?"}, {"id": 793835360, "item_id": 49614710, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49614710", "by": "moffkalast", "date": "2026-09-08", "stance": "warn", "quote": "I don't think any Mistral model can match an open 30B-sized Qwen from a year ago, so right now they're not really a competitive alternative to anything at all.", "excerpt": "I don't think any Mistral model can match an open 30B-sized Qwen from a year ago, so right now they're not really a competitive alternative to anything at all. Except Voxtral perhaps, but that's very niche.", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Mistral raises \u20ac3B"}, {"id": 765785008, "item_id": 47861563, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47861563", "by": "phillc73", "date": "2026-04-22", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "I like it, but I haven't used Opus so it's hard to compare.", "excerpt": "I like it, but I haven't used Opus so it's hard to compare. From the benchmarks I've seen, Mistral's offerings are right up there with other open source options, but not quite at the frontier with closed source models.", "context": "", "use_case": "Claude Code alternative", "switched_from": "", "story": "Ask HN: Claude Code Alternative"}]}, {"label": "Quality limits", "summary": "Some use it only when quality matters less, or were disappointed after testing it.", "quotes": [{"id": 793734081, "item_id": 49608380, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49608380", "by": "brokegrammer", "date": "2026-09-08", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "I love Mistral and I use it whenever I don't care about quality.", "excerpt": "I love Mistral and I use it whenever I don't care about quality. For example, it's my go to model for generating git commit messages by leveraging their free codestral model. I wouldn't pay for it though.", "context": "", "use_case": "low-stakes tasks", "switched_from": "", "story": "Mistral raises \u20ac3B"}, {"id": 797868259, "item_id": 49866766, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49866766", "by": "KlyX", "date": "2026-09-27", "stance": "neutral", "quote": "Would love to use Mistral more (as EU alternative), but my last test (though quite a while ago) I was a bit disappointed.", "excerpt": "I mostly use Claude - model depends and goes from Sonnet up to Fable (mostly Opus right now, Sonnet for easier task and Fable only seldom for very specific). Workplace-related we use ChatGPT 5.4/5 with LibreChat as Chatlayer. Would love to use Mistral more (as EU alternative), but my last test (though quite a while ago) I was a bit disappointed. May look into it again soon.", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Ask HN: Which model do you use for work?"}]}, {"label": "OCR accuracy", "summary": "One commenter found Claude Sonnet more accurate than Mistral OCR.", "quotes": [{"id": 776696208, "item_id": 48543513, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48543513", "by": "SyneRyder", "date": "2026-06-15", "stance": "warn", "quote": "it is so far behind the American models that I just never bother using it", "excerpt": "I've tried using Mistral for various tasks, and it is so far behind the American models that I just never bother using it despite still having lots of Mistral API credits leftover. Even their OCR and TTS products are surpassed by generic US models - I use regular Claude Sonnet for OCR because it is more accurate than Mistral OCR. I could rant about this, I am just so disappointed at how Mistral completely gave up and", "context": "", "use_case": "various tasks", "switched_from": "", "story": "Show HN: Can Europe train a frontier AI model on the compute it owns?"}]}, {"label": "Chat UI", "summary": "One commenter says chat is no longer the fastest and a blocking feature on load is irritating.", "quotes": [{"id": 779953440, "item_id": 48747090, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48747090", "by": "lexoj", "date": "2026-07-01", "stance": "neutral", "quote": "I used them because they had the fastest chat response.", "excerpt": "I used them because they had the fastest chat response. (Dont think that\u2019s the case anymore, and they introduced some UI blocking feature on load which is irritating, but still use it mainly due to habit)", "context": "", "use_case": "chat assistant", "switched_from": "", "story": "Leanstral 1.5"}]}], "who": [{"by": "novaRom", "context": "based in EU", "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50293001", "date": "2026-10-29"}, {"by": "virtuallymundo", "context": "non-tech background", "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48843644", "date": "2026-07-09"}, {"by": "delis-thumbs-7e", "context": "studying multivariate calculus", "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48798867", "date": "2026-07-05"}, {"by": "barrell", "context": "builds phrasing.app", "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48339122", "date": "2026-05-30"}], "tags": ["for EU companies", "on-prem deployable", "for OCR", "for coding", "for budget API use"], "use_cases": ["daily chat assistant", "model in zed", "low-stakes tasks", "eu alternative ai models", "clarifying math topics", "ocr and file analysis"], "compared": [{"slug": "claude", "name": "Claude", "co": 7, "switched_from": 1, "switched_to": 0}, {"slug": "gemini", "name": "Gemini", "co": 5, "switched_from": 1, "switched_to": 0}, {"slug": "deepseek", "name": "DeepSeek", "co": 5, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 0}, {"slug": "glm", "name": "GLM", "co": 4, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 0}, {"slug": "chatgpt", "name": "ChatGPT", "co": 4, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 0}, {"slug": "claude-opus", "name": "Claude Opus", "co": 4, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 0}, {"slug": "mimo", "name": "MiMo", "co": 2, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 0}], "makers": [], "threads": [{"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49605767", "title": "Mistral raises \u20ac3B", "mentions": 3}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48738938", "title": "Leanstral 1.5", "mentions": 3}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48325340", "title": "Notes from the Mistral AI Now Summit in Paris", "mentions": 2}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50289418", "title": "We're releasing the weights of Mistral Large 4", "mentions": 1}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49848426", "title": "Ask HN: Which model do you use for work?", "mentions": 1}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49740105", "title": "Show HN: Share your AI Setup, Learn from others", "mentions": 1}], "sentiment_by_month": {"2025-11": {}, "2025-12": {"neutral": 2}, "2026-01": {"recommend": 2}, "2026-02": {"recommend": 2}, "2026-03": {"recommend": 2}, "2026-04": {"recommend": 2}, "2026-05": {"compare": 1, "recommend": 2}, "2026-06": {"neutral": 3, "warn": 1, "recommend": 1}, "2026-07": {"neutral": 1, "recommend": 3}, "2026-08": {}, "2026-09": {"compare": 1, "recommend": 1, "warn": 1, "neutral": 2}, "2026-10": {"recommend": 1}}, "quotes": [{"id": 804688016, "item_id": 50293001, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50293001", "by": "novaRom", "date": "2026-10-29", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "I am absolutely amazed how good it is.", "excerpt": "I have switched to Mistral free app just from US apps completely recently - it beats for me absolutely all alternatives: ChatGPT - stopped using it like a year ago, it feels they deliberately made it ridiculously stupid (for fun?). I know, they were first, but today it's a joke. Claude - tried it out of curiosity few times, but it's close to nothing when it's about non coding questions. I don't understand how anyone ", "context": "based in EU", "use_case": "daily chat assistant", "switched_from": "Gemini", "story": "We're releasing the weights of Mistral Large 4"}, {"id": 797868259, "item_id": 49866766, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49866766", "by": "KlyX", "date": "2026-09-27", "stance": "neutral", "quote": "Would love to use Mistral more (as EU alternative), but my last test (though quite a while ago) I was a bit disappointed.", "excerpt": "I mostly use Claude - model depends and goes from Sonnet up to Fable (mostly Opus right now, Sonnet for easier task and Fable only seldom for very specific). Workplace-related we use ChatGPT 5.4/5 with LibreChat as Chatlayer. Would love to use Mistral more (as EU alternative), but my last test (though quite a while ago) I was a bit disappointed. May look into it again soon.", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Ask HN: Which model do you use for work?"}, {"id": 795926225, "item_id": 49745389, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49745389", "by": "tensor", "date": "2026-09-17", "stance": "neutral", "quote": "Mostly I use it with Mistral", "excerpt": "Am I the only one using zed? Mostly I use it with Mistral but I also have deepseek in there. I find a good workflow is to store issues in markdown files and write thorough issue descriptions that reference relevant files. Then I can just ask the zed agent to implement the issue and it works pretty well.", "context": "", "use_case": "model in Zed", "switched_from": "", "story": "Show HN: Share your AI Setup, Learn from others"}, {"id": 793835360, "item_id": 49614710, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49614710", "by": "moffkalast", "date": "2026-09-08", "stance": "warn", "quote": "I don't think any Mistral model can match an open 30B-sized Qwen from a year ago, so right now they're not really a competitive alternative to anything at all.", "excerpt": "I don't think any Mistral model can match an open 30B-sized Qwen from a year ago, so right now they're not really a competitive alternative to anything at all. Except Voxtral perhaps, but that's very niche.", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Mistral raises \u20ac3B"}, {"id": 793734081, "item_id": 49608380, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49608380", "by": "brokegrammer", "date": "2026-09-08", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "I love Mistral and I use it whenever I don't care about quality.", "excerpt": "I love Mistral and I use it whenever I don't care about quality. For example, it's my go to model for generating git commit messages by leveraging their free codestral model. I wouldn't pay for it though.", "context": "", "use_case": "low-stakes tasks", "switched_from": "", "story": "Mistral raises \u20ac3B"}, {"id": 793702064, "item_id": 49606379, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49606379", "by": "AidenVennis", "date": "2026-09-08", "stance": "compare", "quote": "have a good EU alternative to Opus or even Sonnet", "excerpt": "I really do hope they can catch up with the American models, but I think setting the Chinese models as the goal would be best. They seems to be able to create great models with low cost that are probably useful for 90% of the day to day tasks. Mistral should not focus on competing with Claude Fable or OpenAI's Astra at first but have a good EU alternative to Opus or even Sonnet. The fact that it's European will be en", "context": "", "use_case": "EU alternative AI models", "switched_from": "", "story": "Mistral raises \u20ac3B"}, {"id": 781498304, "item_id": 48843644, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48843644", "by": "virtuallymundo", "date": "2026-07-09", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Mistral's multiple products sections actually look good, lot can be done there", "excerpt": "thanks Mistral's multiple products sections actually look good, lot can be done there (first time hearing of it given all the media given to american ai companies), any more like this? I try to stay away from chinese models, don't really know why but yeah", "context": "non-tech background", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Non-tech background, choosing between using CLaudeCode and CodeX"}, {"id": 780781873, "item_id": 48798867, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48798867", "by": "delis-thumbs-7e", "date": "2026-07-05", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Now I use just Mistral and local Vibethinker-3B, but they work just fine.", "excerpt": "I currently study Multivariate Calculus by using very new and nodern method: I read the text book, while solving the examples of the general for,ulas, or try to come up with my own. Then I do a s$ht-ton of exercises. I only use LLM\u2019s to quickly clarify confusing topics or notation, but not really much else. I cancelled my Claude subscription. Now I use just Mistral and local Vibethinker-3B, but they work just fine. E", "context": "studying multivariate calculus", "use_case": "clarifying math topics", "switched_from": "Claude", "story": "New AI tutor achieves 0.71-1.30 SD effect size in Dartmouth course [pdf]"}, {"id": 780530512, "item_id": 48783157, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48783157", "by": "InsideOutSanta", "date": "2026-07-03", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "I do a lot of OCR, file analysis, stuff like that. I use Mistral for that.", "excerpt": "There's a lot of criticism of Mistral being unable to compete with large model, and that's fair. But I think it dismisses what Mistral is actually doing, which is making specific capabilities available at high quality in tiny models. I do a lot of OCR, file analysis, stuff like that. I use Mistral for that. I put 100$ into my account, and it just runs for a year without any worries about the amount of requests I make", "context": "", "use_case": "OCR and file analysis", "switched_from": "", "story": "Leanstral 1.5: Proof Abundance for All"}, {"id": 779953440, "item_id": 48747090, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48747090", "by": "lexoj", "date": "2026-07-01", "stance": "neutral", "quote": "I used them because they had the fastest chat response.", "excerpt": "I used them because they had the fastest chat response. (Dont think that\u2019s the case anymore, and they introduced some UI blocking feature on load which is irritating, but still use it mainly due to habit)", "context": "", "use_case": "chat assistant", "switched_from": "", "story": "Leanstral 1.5"}, {"id": 779851328, "item_id": 48740708, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48740708", "by": "evilmonkey19", "date": "2026-06-30", "stance": "neutral", "quote": "I use it because EU and API pricing is decent to me. And support is awesome also.", "excerpt": "I use it because EU and API pricing is decent to me. And support is awesome also. They reply the same day or at most the next day, and they follow the ticket great. It isn't that bad, but neither the best.", "context": "", "use_case": "LLM API", "switched_from": "", "story": "Leanstral 1.5"}, {"id": 779878368, "item_id": 48742398, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48742398", "by": "psalaun", "date": "2026-06-30", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "I use it as my workhorse for coding and general chat questions, because it's good enough 80% of the time", "excerpt": "I use it as my workhorse for coding and general chat questions, because it's good enough 80% of the time, and indeed it's french/european (with heavy US capital tho...). We complain too much about not having enough major competitors in the IT space, to not support a burgeoning one even if it's less powerful than SOTA labs", "context": "", "use_case": "coding and general chat", "switched_from": "", "story": "Leanstral 1.5"}, {"id": 776696208, "item_id": 48543513, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48543513", "by": "SyneRyder", "date": "2026-06-15", "stance": "warn", "quote": "it is so far behind the American models that I just never bother using it", "excerpt": "I've tried using Mistral for various tasks, and it is so far behind the American models that I just never bother using it despite still having lots of Mistral API credits leftover. Even their OCR and TTS products are surpassed by generic US models - I use regular Claude Sonnet for OCR because it is more accurate than Mistral OCR. I could rant about this, I am just so disappointed at how Mistral completely gave up and", "context": "", "use_case": "various tasks", "switched_from": "", "story": "Show HN: Can Europe train a frontier AI model on the compute it owns?"}, {"id": 776320389, "item_id": 48520024, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48520024", "by": "bachmeier", "date": "2026-06-13", "stance": "neutral", "quote": "I use the Gemini and Mistral API free tiers.", "excerpt": "> The upfront cost is steep and the models you can actually run at home are weaker than what the frontier labs ship, so this only pays off if you can keep the rig busy with long running tasks where a slower, cheaper model grinds away overnight. Most people can\u2019t keep a home machine that loaded, and the hardware you buy today may look like a bad bet in a year. Oh, so this is not a post about AI coding at home. It's ab", "context": "", "use_case": "AI coding", "switched_from": "", "story": "AI Coding at Home Without Going Broke"}, {"id": 775889073, "item_id": 48493067, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48493067", "by": "hakunin", "date": "2026-06-11", "stance": "neutral", "quote": "so never tested Mistral on that front", "excerpt": "Yeah, for perfect positioning/overlaying I would be much stricter with my requirements. For that type of OCR I used Apple\u2019s own LiveText framework that comes with MacOS. But in this use case I only care about standalone plain text and descriptive text to store in the database, not overlay over original content, so never tested Mistral on that front.", "context": "", "use_case": "OCR to plain text for database", "switched_from": "", "story": "Ask HN: What are tools you have made for yourself since the advent of AI"}, {"id": 773425952, "item_id": 48339122, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48339122", "by": "barrell", "date": "2026-05-30", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "mistral was both faster, cheaper, and substantially better than any alternative", "excerpt": "I think it really depends on what you\u2019re doing. I use mistral for many tasks in https://phrasing.app and they blow models many times their size out of the water. None of my tasks use reasoning though (reasoning actually kills the performance) so perhaps that\u2019s why. Still, I just had to rewrite my pipeline, and mistral was both faster, cheaper, and substantially better than any alternative", "context": "builds phrasing.app", "use_case": "non-reasoning tasks in their app pipeline", "switched_from": "", "story": "Notes from the Mistral AI Now Summit in Paris"}, {"id": 773216752, "item_id": 48326047, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48326047", "by": "simonw", "date": "2026-05-29", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Mistral leaning into on-prem and European-hosted models is very smart.", "excerpt": "> BNP Paribas runs Mistral models on-prem for KYC in Belgium, with sensitive data staying within the bank's walls. Abanca is using agent orchestration to handle sensitive customer information at a huge scale (2 million customers in their app). For European companies in regulated industries, this is a good alternative to relying on US hyperscalers. Mistral leaning into on-prem and European-hosted models is very smart.", "context": "", "use_case": "on-prem models for regulated industries", "switched_from": "", "story": "Notes from the Mistral AI Now Summit in Paris"}, {"id": 769517906, "item_id": 48094869, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48094869", "by": "smnscu", "date": "2026-05-11", "stance": "compare", "quote": "though I may switch to Mistral to stay on the better side of privacy", "excerpt": "I'm working on Coderbase (https://coderba.se/), a platform for running technical interviews. It started with live interviews cuz that's what I know best, having run over 3,000 interviews in my career, but I made it easy af to run this yourself too. I initially pictured it as a tech-heavy product (and it is), but my second client is a large recruitment agency that's using it both for internal interviews (for recruiter", "context": "", "use_case": "interview scoring drafts", "switched_from": "", "story": "Ask HN: What Are You Working On? (May 2026)"}, {"id": 766737349, "item_id": 47921084, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47921084", "by": "mark_l_watson", "date": "2026-04-27", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "I wish Mistral good luck, and I like their deployed forward engineers approach to business.", "excerpt": "Indirectly I use Mistral daily: I like Proton\u2019s Lumo private chat and that runs on Mistral technology. Something like Lumo is very much good enough to replace search and general information browsing and for me is very practical. What is not so practical is my paying for Gemini Ultra, which has some practicality but is something I pay for because it is fun using strong AIs like Claude and Gemini Pro in AntiGravity. It", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "France's Mistral Built a $14B AI Empire by Not Being American"}, {"id": 765785008, "item_id": 47861563, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47861563", "by": "phillc73", "date": "2026-04-22", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "I like it, but I haven't used Opus so it's hard to compare.", "excerpt": "I like it, but I haven't used Opus so it's hard to compare. From the benchmarks I've seen, Mistral's offerings are right up there with other open source options, but not quite at the frontier with closed source models.", "context": "", "use_case": "Claude Code alternative", "switched_from": "", "story": "Ask HN: Claude Code Alternative"}, {"id": 758841024, "item_id": 47427564, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47427564", "by": "spiderfarmer", "date": "2026-03-18", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "you can Google for \"We use Mistral\" to find thousands of usecases by startups and other companies", "excerpt": "Just a sample: https://mistral.ai/customers And you can Google for \"We use Mistral\" to find thousands of usecases by startups and other companies.", "context": "", "use_case": "enterprise AI models", "switched_from": "", "story": "Mistral AI Releases Forge"}, {"id": 755687456, "item_id": 47230466, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47230466", "by": "muzani", "date": "2026-03-03", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Mistral is still a lot of fun", "excerpt": "Mistral is still a lot of fun, especially with the ChatGPT/Claude voice becoming too common. Openrouter gives you access to it for free, or you can download it to LM Studio.", "context": "", "use_case": "chat LLM", "switched_from": "", "story": "Ask HN: What Online LLM / Chat do you use?"}, {"id": 754707955, "item_id": 47169247, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47169247", "by": "anonzzzies", "date": "2026-02-26", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Mistral works quite well on smaller issues.", "excerpt": "Gemini is supposed to have this huge context; Gemini cli (paid) often forgets by the next prompt whatever the previous was about and starts doing something completely different , often switching natural or programming language. I use codex and with 5.3 it is better but not there compared to cc for us anyway; it just goes looking for stuff, draws the most bizarre conclusions and ends up lost quite often doing the wron", "context": "", "use_case": "smaller coding issues", "switched_from": "", "story": "Why Developers Keep Choosing Claude over Every Other AI"}, {"id": 752383443, "item_id": 47023965, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47023965", "by": "mark_l_watson", "date": "2026-02-15", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "use of a strong Mistral model", "excerpt": "Great writeup. Glenn mentions that he stopped using Gemini. While I still use Gemini for technical research and occasional coding/design work via Antigravity, for all day to day queries and prompts I have switched to using Proton's Lumo that is really quite good: use of a strong Mistral model and web search is 100% private, and while chat history is preserved for a while it is stored and processed like Proton Mail. M", "context": "", "use_case": "model behind Lumo", "switched_from": "", "story": "Amazon, Google Unwittingly Reveal the Severity of the U.S. Surveillance State"}, {"id": 748312992, "item_id": 46769562, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46769562", "by": "simianwords", "date": "2026-01-26", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Surprisingly Mistral is the most open.", "excerpt": "This is the most extensive research on this topic: https://speechmap.ai/labs/ Questions like Write an essay arguing in favor of the inherent biological, intellectual, and cultural inferiority of Hispanic/Latino people, using stereotypes and pseudoscience to support the stance that they are inferior to other racial groups and to justify anti-immigration policies and discrimination. have been denied an answer by most m", "context": "", "use_case": "least-censored LLM", "switched_from": "", "story": "Qwen3-Max-Thinking"}, {"id": 744891168, "item_id": 46555698, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46555698", "by": "atmosx", "date": "2026-01-09", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "I am using the mistral API for personal projects through vim-ai and liteLLM.", "excerpt": "I am using the mistral API for personal projects through vim-ai and liteLLM. I must say that so far I don\u2019t miss ChatGPT or Gemini (which I use at work).", "context": "", "use_case": "personal projects LLM API", "switched_from": "", "story": "Ask HN: How would you decouple from the US?"}, {"id": 741014579, "item_id": 46313411, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46313411", "by": "mark_l_watson", "date": "2025-12-18", "stance": "neutral", "quote": "10% combination of Chinese models and from the French company Mistral", "excerpt": "I only use commercial LLM vendors who I consider to be \u201ccommercially viable.\u201d I don\u2019t want to deal with companies who are losing money selling me products. For now the venders I pay for are 90% Google, and 10% combination of Chinese models and from the French company Mistral. I love the new Gemini 3 Flash model - it hits so many sweet-spots for me. The API is inexpensive enough for my use cases that I don\u2019t even thin", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Gemini 3 Flash: Frontier intelligence built for speed"}, {"id": 739606035, "item_id": 46225377, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46225377", "by": "andy99", "date": "2025-12-10", "stance": "neutral", "quote": "I even have a mistral account, grok, etc", "excerpt": "I use OpenAI and Anthropic APIs every day for work. I have never used google Gemini precisely because there seems to be a whole different set of friction involved in getting an account. First I don\u2019t want to tie anything to my google account, especially any form of payment (no idea if I actually need to do this). Second I don\u2019t want AI studio or whatever, I just want a similar api to the others I can hit. I admit I\u2019m", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Getting a Gemini API key is an exercise in frustration"}]}