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Plus I cannot run it inside an Alpine Linux VM which is annoying as all the other agents I tried worked just fine.", "context": "", "use_case": "AI coding at work", "switched_from": "", "story": "JetBrains Air: A System of Products for Agentic Software Development"}]}, {"text": " and is hard to configure with other model providers.", "cites": [{"id": 804035376, "item_id": 50252211, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50252211", "by": "anigbrowl", "date": "2026-10-26", "stance": "warn", "quote": "Jetbrains' own agent host 'Junie' was such a paim to set up and get working with other providers that I switched to Cline.", "excerpt": "I'm inclined to agree. Jetbrains' own agent host 'Junie' was such a paim to set up and get working with other providers that I switched to Cline. 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I tried configuring Pi to be accessed though ACP, but it felt like going through a hoop to have a worse experie", "context": "", "use_case": "LLM code review", "switched_from": "", "story": "JetBrains reports revenue growth, net financial loss for 2025"}]}], "praise": [{"label": "Code quality", "summary": "Commenters say it produces clean code and does small refactorings well and quickly.", "quotes": [{"id": 747539440, "item_id": 46721215, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46721215", "by": "cmpalmer52", "date": "2026-01-22", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Result, fairly clean code, very attractive and responsive UI, all requirements met.", "excerpt": "I used the Junie AI coding agent by JetBrains with Claude and ChatGPT engines to create a utility web page and service to track PRs by devs across multiple repos and tied to our ticketing system. 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Plus I cannot run it inside an Alpine Linux VM which is annoying as all the other agents I tried worked just fine.", "context": "", "use_case": "AI coding at work", "switched_from": "", "story": "JetBrains Air: A System of Products for Agentic Software Development"}]}], "who": [{"by": "chrisandchris", "context": "wants simple tool-like AI, avoids next-gen stuff", "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49978357", "date": "2026-10-06"}, {"by": "FpUser", "context": "runs a business, cost-conscious", "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49227137", "date": "2026-08-08"}, {"by": "PaulHoule", "context": "JetBrains enthusiast", "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46888528", "date": "2026-02-04"}, {"by": "cmpalmer52", "context": "developer with rusty web dev skills", "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46721215", "date": "2026-01-22"}, {"by": "voodooEntity", "context": "backend developer", "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46189499", "date": "2025-12-07"}], "tags": ["for JetBrains users", "for cost-conscious devs", "for small refactorings", "CLI available", "local offline option"], "use_cases": ["ai coding agent", "local coding agent", "daily ai coding help", "llm code review", "ai coding in intellij", "small refactorings"], "compared": [{"slug": "codex", "name": "Codex", "co": 3, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 1}, {"slug": "jetbrains-air", "name": "JetBrains Air", "co": 3, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 0}, {"slug": "claude", "name": "Claude", "co": 3, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 0}, {"slug": "cline", "name": "Cline", "co": 1, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 1}, {"slug": "intellij-idea", "name": "IntelliJ IDEA", "co": 2, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 0}, {"slug": "gemini-flash", "name": "Gemini Flash", "co": 2, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 0}, {"slug": "github-copilot", "name": "GitHub Copilot", "co": 2, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 0}], "makers": [], "threads": [{"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49799287", "title": "JetBrains Air: A System of Products for Agentic Software Development", "mentions": 3}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49977072", "title": "JetBrains reports revenue growth, net financial loss for 2025", "mentions": 2}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50233294", "title": "JetBrains Thinkrail", "mentions": 1}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50132963", "title": "JetBrains Junie Local: An agent you own, not one you rent", "mentions": 1}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49830866", "title": "Best LLM for every budget, updated daily", "mentions": 1}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49214008", "title": "DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731", "mentions": 1}], "sentiment_by_month": {"2025-11": {}, "2025-12": {"neutral": 1}, "2026-01": {"recommend": 2}, "2026-02": {"recommend": 1}, "2026-03": {}, "2026-04": {}, "2026-05": {}, "2026-06": {}, "2026-07": {"recommend": 1}, "2026-08": {"recommend": 1}, "2026-09": {"warn": 2, "neutral": 1, "recommend": 1}, "2026-10": {"neutral": 2, "recommend": 1, "warn": 1}}, "quotes": [{"id": 804035376, "item_id": 50252211, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50252211", "by": "anigbrowl", "date": "2026-10-26", "stance": "warn", "quote": "Jetbrains' own agent host 'Junie' was such a paim to set up and get working with other providers that I switched to Cline.", "excerpt": "I'm inclined to agree. Jetbrains' own agent host 'Junie' was such a paim to set up and get working with other providers that I switched to Cline. I had moderately good results with using that as a coding agent, but eventually I switched to Deepseek Harness for generative tasks and am now using my IDEs more for review.", "context": "", "use_case": "AI coding agent", "switched_from": "", "story": "JetBrains Thinkrail"}, {"id": 802137072, "item_id": 50133567, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50133567", "by": "jt2190", "date": "2026-10-17", "stance": "neutral", "quote": "I\u2019ll definitely give this a try.", "excerpt": "The link lands me on Junie CLI. Here\u2019s the link to local: > Fully local: Nothing leaves the machine > Offline > Free to use: No card, no subscription, no credits. [1] https://junie.jetbrains.com/local I\u2019ll definitely give this a try. [1] Best as I can tell, the \u201clocal\u201d version is the same as \u201cCLI\u201d, and \u201cCLI\u201d simply means using a cloud model, which you have to pay for. It also looks like JetBrains is hosting some mode", "context": "", "use_case": "local coding agent", "switched_from": "", "story": "JetBrains Junie Local: An agent you own, not one you rent"}, {"id": 799653712, "item_id": 49978357, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49978357", "by": "chrisandchris", "date": "2026-10-06", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Junie is boring, and that's perfect (for me).", "excerpt": "I use it daily, but I'm also the AI consumer that is looking for something like a hammer and a saw (it's clear what their job are and they're doing their job fine). I'm absolutelty not looking for the next-gen-stuff, so I avoid Codex/Claude/... Junie is boring, and that's perfect (for me).", "context": "wants simple tool-like AI, avoids next-gen stuff", "use_case": "daily AI coding help", "switched_from": "", "story": "JetBrains reports revenue growth, net financial loss for 2025"}, {"id": 799646384, "item_id": 49977899, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49977899", "by": "surgical_fire", "date": "2026-10-06", "stance": "neutral", "quote": "It is alright to get an LLM review on code I write myself, but getting extra tokens is expensive", "excerpt": "I used it for a bit. It is alright to get an LLM review on code I write myself, but getting extra tokens is expensive, and it was not clear if I could configure it to use one of the API keys I have from GLM, MiMo, etc. I tried Air as well. It was alright, but I found it a bit more cumbersome to use then Pi. I tried configuring Pi to be accessed though ACP, but it felt like going through a hoop to have a worse experie", "context": "", "use_case": "LLM code review", "switched_from": "", "story": "JetBrains reports revenue growth, net financial loss for 2025"}, {"id": 797356560, "item_id": 49834785, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49834785", "by": "lowercased", "date": "2026-09-24", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Give it a shot - the CLI version made it more usable.", "excerpt": "Junie is $30/month, and I get $35 in credits. There are times I go over the limit, and you can 'top up' in increments of $5 (min). On a busy month (for me) I may have spent and extra $40. Initially I didn't hit the limit. As it's more of a daily driver, I'm averaging an extra $20, so... maybe $50/month. Give it a shot - the CLI version made it more usable.", "context": "", "use_case": "AI coding in IntelliJ", "switched_from": "", "story": "Best LLM for every budget, updated daily"}, {"id": 796819185, "item_id": 49801199, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49801199", "by": "GordonS", "date": "2026-09-22", "stance": "neutral", "quote": "For a while I used Junie for small refactorings, and it generally does a good job, quite quickly.", "excerpt": "Ah. I don't rate how JetBrains have gone about it. It feels like things have moved around a lot, and it seems too complicated, with too many AI \"thingies\" sprinkled around without much explanation. And the inline, auto-suggested change can vary from \"useful, please do that\", to \"will you stop flashing up all this shit everywhere I look!\". For a while I used Junie for small refactorings, and it generally does a good j", "context": "", "use_case": "small refactorings", "switched_from": "", "story": "JetBrains Air: A System of Products for Agentic Software Development"}, {"id": 796816176, "item_id": 49801011, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49801011", "by": "backwardsponcho", "date": "2026-09-22", "stance": "warn", "quote": "I use Junie at work and I have to say I'm not amazed by it.", "excerpt": "I use Junie at work and I have to say I'm not amazed by it. Plus I cannot run it inside an Alpine Linux VM which is annoying as all the other agents I tried worked just fine.", "context": "", "use_case": "AI coding at work", "switched_from": "", "story": "JetBrains Air: A System of Products for Agentic Software Development"}, {"id": 796793265, "item_id": 49799579, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49799579", "by": "delbronski", "date": "2026-09-22", "stance": "warn", "quote": "I gave Junie a solid try, but it was always too far behind the competition.", "excerpt": "I\u2019ve been a happy paying JetBrains customer for 10+ years. This year I decided not to renew. It\u2019s just not worth it anymore. I don\u2019t spend as much time as i used to in an IDE. And their AI offerings are not so great. I gave Junie a solid try, but it was always too far behind the competition. I gave Air a solid try, but it was full of bugs. I wish them the best, and I hope they can find a solid product again in this n", "context": "", "use_case": "AI coding", "switched_from": "", "story": "JetBrains Air: A System of Products for Agentic Software Development"}, {"id": 787634192, "item_id": 49227137, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49227137", "by": "FpUser", "date": "2026-08-08", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "I use Junie straight from my JetBrain's IDEs that in turn uses Gemini Flash. Very cheap and more than enough for my use.", "excerpt": ">\"To what extent are the Chinese labs being subsidized? Are they real businesses?\" And who gives a flying fuck. I am a \"real\" business and I count my money. It is not my life goal to prop some fat cats crying crocodile tears. Granted I do not use Chinese models. I use Junie straight from my JetBrain's IDEs that in turn uses Gemini Flash. Very cheap and more than enough for my use.", "context": "runs a business, cost-conscious", "use_case": "AI coding in JetBrains IDEs", "switched_from": "", "story": "DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731"}, {"id": 780607152, "item_id": 48787947, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48787947", "by": "FpUser", "date": "2026-07-04", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Junie is told to use Gemini Flash and works fine for what I (\"I\" being an emphasis here) ask it to do.", "excerpt": ">\"they aren\u2019t able to do the reinforcement learning post-training steps\" Not yet. If there is a need someone will come and fulfill. Personally for me now I do not even want to use top models. Professionally I use AI to help with the coding using Junie agent that comes with IDEs from JetBrains. Junie is told to use Gemini Flash and works fine for what I (\"I\" being an emphasis here) ask it to do. I tried more advanced ", "context": "professional developer using JetBrains IDEs", "use_case": "coding assistance in IDE", "switched_from": "", "story": "Google Books (or similar) all book scans \u2013 $200k bounty"}, {"id": 750216449, "item_id": 46888528, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46888528", "by": "PaulHoule", "date": "2026-02-04", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "For real coding I use Junie because I'm a Jetbrains enthusiast", "excerpt": "I think the plain ordinary chatbot behind the Copilot on the desktop is fine, it seems like a skin around ChatGPT-5 in the \"Smart\" mode and in the \"Search\" mode it compares to Google's AI mode. When it comes to anything multimodal it is an absolute disaster. Show it a photo of a plant for a plant id? Forget about it, just take a picture of the screen on your phone with Google Lens. If you ask it to draw something or ", "context": "JetBrains enthusiast", "use_case": "real coding", "switched_from": "", "story": "Microsoft's Pivotal AI Product Is Running into Big Problems"}, {"id": 747539440, "item_id": 46721215, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46721215", "by": "cmpalmer52", "date": "2026-01-22", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Result, fairly clean code, very attractive and responsive UI, all requirements met.", "excerpt": "I used the Junie AI coding agent by JetBrains with Claude and ChatGPT engines to create a utility web page and service to track PRs by devs across multiple repos and tied to our ticketing system. I did it as an experiment with my constraint being that I refused to edit code, but I did review the code it made and made it make fixes. I didn\u2019t do it as a one shot. Roughly, I: * sketched out a layout on paper and photogr", "context": "developer with rusty web dev skills", "use_case": "building PR tracking web utility", "switched_from": "", "story": "Ask HN: Do you have any evidence that agentic coding works?"}, {"id": 747326496, "item_id": 46707906, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46707906", "by": "PaulHoule", "date": "2026-01-21", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "I use Junie to help code and think I am writing better code if not writing it faster.", "excerpt": "None of the above. I use Junie to help code and think I am writing better code if not writing it faster. Copilot also helps me transform into a fox and I have all kinds of KPI for that (e.g. got petted) but as-a-fox or otherwise I reject that there is anything 10x about it. If you think you are 10x more productive coding before I implore you to look at it from the viewpoint of your team. I've been the guy who picks u", "context": "", "use_case": "coding help", "switched_from": "", "story": "Ask HN: What single AI tool/technique 10x'd your productivity last year?"}, {"id": 745854096, "item_id": 46615881, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46615881", "by": "PaulHoule", "date": "2026-01-14", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "I like Julie because it is integrated with my favorite IDE and that counts for a lot", "excerpt": "I like Julie because it is integrated with my favorite IDE and that counts for a lot although I wish it was better integrated and searched for things using the IDE\u2019s database as opposed to Find-String. I like having conversations with my agent, asking questions so I know how things work, asking it to ask me questions, etc. Personally for me one benefit of AI coding is better quality and better understanding. If it\u2019s ", "context": "", "use_case": "IDE-integrated coding agent", "switched_from": "", "story": "Ask HN: Why are software developers not using Background coding agents?"}, {"id": 744440976, "item_id": 46527561, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46527561", "by": "PaulHoule", "date": "2026-01-07", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Junie suggested I write a browser extension for Firefox and I was initially intimidated at the thought but it banged out something in just a few minutes", "excerpt": "I'll argue many of his cases are things that are straightforward except for the boilerplate that surrounds them which are often emotionally difficult or prone to rabbit holes. Like that first one where he writes a right-click handler, off the top of my head I have no idea how I would do that, I could see it taking a few hours to just set up a dev environment, and I would probably overthink the research. I was working", "context": "", "use_case": "AI coding agent", "switched_from": "", "story": "Opus 4.5 is going to change everything"}, {"id": 739031984, "item_id": 46189499, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46189499", "by": "voodooEntity", "date": "2025-12-07", "stance": "neutral", "quote": "Im really curious how especially junie will act", "excerpt": "THanks for sharing this. Partly because i forgot about this great website :D also because i would never thought of giving this as an LLM task because its so simple that i prolly just had hacked it down myself :D I recently experimented alot with agentic coding (mostly with gemini+ intellij plugin, copilot intellij plugin and intellij's own junie) and also condsidered to give it a try and feed images to the AI, but th", "context": "backend developer", "use_case": "agentic coding", "switched_from": "", "story": "I failed to recreate the 1996 Space Jam website with Claude"}]}