{"slug": "google-chrome", "name": "Google Chrome", "category": "browsers", "category_name": "Browsers and extensions", "description": "Google's web browser for desktop and mobile, built on the open-source Chromium project.", "recommenders": 79, "commenters": 604, "warners": 241, "score": -76.037, "rising": 0.04, "first": "2025-11-01", "latest": "2026-10-30", "why": "Liked for speed and battery life, reliable support for web standards, and features like seamless page translation.", "why_is_quote": false, "has_verdict": true, "sentiment": {"recommend": 81, "neutral": 259, "compare": 69, "warn": 284}, "spark": [7, 5, 9, 6, 5, 6, 6, 10, 6, 8, 6, 7], "listed": true, "loved": ["Speed", "Standards support"], "caveat": "Web dominance", "short_quote": "The reason I switched to chrome a long time ago was tab isolation, how much faster it was than Firefox, and built it better developer tools.", "kind": "", "icon": false, "domain": "chrome.com", "github_repo": null, "official_url": "https://www.google.com/chrome/", "pricing": "free", "aliases": ["Chrome", "Google Chrome"], "verdict": [{"text": "Liked for speed and battery life,", "cites": [{"id": 797805201, "item_id": 49862825, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49862825", "by": "dataflow", "date": "2026-09-27", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "For Chrome the speed was probably the biggest factor", "excerpt": "Thanks for asking. Depends what time period you're asking about. My memory's faded so there may be inaccuracies here or things may be out of order, but this is what I remember. There was a long era (years) when I loved Mozilla and used Firefox -- and then even Waterfox, IIRC because it was 64-bit -- exclusively. (As well as Thunderbird.) I did not like Chrome. IIRC at some point they started feeling like every update", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "Firefox", "story": "PipePipe: NewPipe hard fork implementing SponsorBlock"}, {"id": 799128274, "item_id": 49945517, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49945517", "by": "jorvi", "date": "2026-10-03", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "otherwise something like Chrome, Edge or Brave just makes more sense.", "excerpt": "Chromium-based browsers actually have had better battery life than Safari for 2 years (!) now[0]. And perform better. Which is a real egg on Apple's face. The only reason to use Safari is because you're knee-deep in the Apple ecosystem, otherwise something like Chrome, Edge or Brave just makes more sense. [0]https://birchtree.me/blog/everyone-says-chrome-devastates-mac-battery-life-but-does-it-i-tested-for-36-hours-t", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "An Update on Orion for Linux and Windows"}]}, {"text": " reliable support for web standards,", "cites": [{"id": 801224753, "item_id": 50076547, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50076547", "by": "zaphar", "date": "2026-10-13", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Chrome at least works for any web standard which IE did not.", "excerpt": "I use safari regularly and it has not really kept up. All kinds of stuff that is partly broken for rendering. Especially on heavily dynamic sites. Chrome at least works for any web standard which IE did not.", "context": "", "use_case": "web browsing", "switched_from": "", "story": "Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you should ditch Chrome"}]}, {"text": " and features like seamless page translation.", "cites": [{"id": 801268800, "item_id": 50079300, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50079300", "by": "freetime2", "date": "2026-10-13", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "In Chrome you can switch back and forth between languages seamlessly", "excerpt": "Maybe a bit of an edge use case, but I use the translate page feature a lot in browsers. In Chrome you can switch back and forth between languages seamlessly, but in Safari translating a page requires reloading the page - which can cause issues on forms that use POST. Even worse, I've found that switching back to the original language just doesn't work on pages loaded with POST - the page gets stuck on the translated", "context": "", "use_case": "page translation", "switched_from": "", "story": "Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you should ditch Chrome"}]}, {"text": " The most common complaint is Google's control over web standards and the browser itself, including the end of Manifest V2 ad blocking,", "cites": [{"id": 802852688, "item_id": 50178293, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50178293", "by": "troupo", "date": "2026-10-21", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "Of course Chrome bulldozed this effort as well", "excerpt": "It's because Chrome has taken over interop. Just like they do with any other useful initiative like OpenUI [1]. It feels like Interop was created to curb Chrome's bulldozing various processes with their own internal APIs and development, and to show that there's more to the web than yet another shitty Javascript API. So a lot of Interop is decidedly everything else. See e.g. Interop 2022: https://hacks.mozilla.org/20", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "The Future of CSS"}, {"id": 801338320, "item_id": 50083645, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50083645", "by": "sjamaan", "date": "2026-10-14", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "why the market dominance of Chrome is such a big deal", "excerpt": "Obligatory updated comic link: https://contrachrome.com/ A good context for why the market dominance of Chrome is such a big deal.", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you should ditch Chrome"}, {"id": 803157152, "item_id": 50197322, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50197322", "by": "kensey", "date": "2026-10-22", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "The reason we don't have DANE support in browsers is of course because Google decided not to implement it in Chrome", "excerpt": "This all day. There is no reason I should have to go through a third-party to get a certificate just to distribute a key for secure communications (which is all a DV certificate is good for) if I already own a domain, or can get the domain owner to publish my TLSA record in theirs (which should be no more onerous than publishing the server A record, which they already have to do). The reason we don't have DANE suppor", "context": "", "use_case": "Web browser", "switched_from": "", "story": "eMudhra to exit global SSL/TLS certificate business"}, {"id": 801300992, "item_id": 50081312, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50081312", "by": "geuis", "date": "2026-10-14", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "The death of manifest v2 is the 2nd to last nail.", "excerpt": "I'm old enough to have been in the industry when Chrome launched. It was amazing. It was such a relief to move away from IE and all the arcane levels of details I had to remember back then to artisnaly get IE to behave like a moderately modern (for then) browser. Chrome was fast, did the basic job of correctly rendering pages, and its js runtime was groundbreaking. Node.js was direct outcome of that revolution. Now t", "context": "", "use_case": "web browsing", "switched_from": "", "story": "Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you should ditch Chrome"}, {"id": 798451185, "item_id": 49903199, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49903199", "by": "rpdillon", "date": "2026-09-30", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "Google Chrome is a frog-boiling exercise where they slowly take away freedoms", "excerpt": "It's about alignment of interests. They believe that there is a business that is valuable selling a user-centric browser. A user-centric browser does not exist today. Google Chrome is a frog-boiling exercise where they slowly take away freedoms to run, for example, ad-blocking in the browser and they do so under the name of security. They've already tried to push the web integrity initiative. They'll try again. Mozil", "context": "", "use_case": "web browsing", "switched_from": "", "story": "I switched to Brave"}]}, {"text": " followed by reports of glitches and memory problems.", "cites": [{"id": 801232417, "item_id": 50077026, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50077026", "by": "alt227", "date": "2026-10-13", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "I am shocked how glitchy it is in comparison", "excerpt": "Ive used Firefox as my daily driver for around 12 years. I switched to Chrome a couple weeks ago to see what the fuss is about and I am shocked how glitchy it is in comparison. Firefox is a much more stable experience.", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you should ditch Chrome"}, {"id": 801285504, "item_id": 50080344, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50080344", "by": "koinedad", "date": "2026-10-13", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "I see significant out of memory issues with chrome on a regular basis.", "excerpt": "Anecdotally I see significant out of memory issues with chrome on a regular basis. I use chrome for work but safari for personal and rarely see the same issue with safari if almost never.", "context": "", "use_case": "work browsing", "switched_from": "", "story": "Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you should ditch Chrome"}, {"id": 803984177, "item_id": 50249011, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50249011", "by": "adrian_b", "date": "2026-10-26", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "which is extraordinarily buggy in both Firefox and Chrome", "excerpt": "While what you say is correct, the point is that the excessive use of JS is what makes nowadays the print command the only way to save most Web pages. Years ago I was never using the \"print\" command in browsers. I used the \"save\" command. But now the \"save\" command is useless for most sites, because the saved scripts frequently do not work offline or they do not work even online, but from local files. So the only alt", "context": "", "use_case": "printing web pages", "switched_from": "", "story": "Websites Should Be Printable"}]}], "praise": [{"label": "Speed", "summary": "Commenters cite speed as a reason to choose it, and one says Chromium browsers beat Safari on battery and performance.", "quotes": [{"id": 797805201, "item_id": 49862825, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49862825", "by": "dataflow", "date": "2026-09-27", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "For Chrome the speed was probably the biggest factor", "excerpt": "Thanks for asking. Depends what time period you're asking about. My memory's faded so there may be inaccuracies here or things may be out of order, but this is what I remember. There was a long era (years) when I loved Mozilla and used Firefox -- and then even Waterfox, IIRC because it was 64-bit -- exclusively. (As well as Thunderbird.) I did not like Chrome. IIRC at some point they started feeling like every update", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "Firefox", "story": "PipePipe: NewPipe hard fork implementing SponsorBlock"}, {"id": 799128274, "item_id": 49945517, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49945517", "by": "jorvi", "date": "2026-10-03", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "otherwise something like Chrome, Edge or Brave just makes more sense.", "excerpt": "Chromium-based browsers actually have had better battery life than Safari for 2 years (!) now[0]. And perform better. Which is a real egg on Apple's face. The only reason to use Safari is because you're knee-deep in the Apple ecosystem, otherwise something like Chrome, Edge or Brave just makes more sense. [0]https://birchtree.me/blog/everyone-says-chrome-devastates-mac-battery-life-but-does-it-i-tested-for-36-hours-t", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "An Update on Orion for Linux and Windows"}]}, {"label": "Standards support", "summary": "Seen as working with web standards where Safari sites are partly broken.", "quotes": [{"id": 801224753, "item_id": 50076547, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50076547", "by": "zaphar", "date": "2026-10-13", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Chrome at least works for any web standard which IE did not.", "excerpt": "I use safari regularly and it has not really kept up. All kinds of stuff that is partly broken for rendering. Especially on heavily dynamic sites. Chrome at least works for any web standard which IE did not.", "context": "", "use_case": "web browsing", "switched_from": "", "story": "Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you should ditch Chrome"}, {"id": 799128274, "item_id": 49945517, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49945517", "by": "jorvi", "date": "2026-10-03", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "otherwise something like Chrome, Edge or Brave just makes more sense.", "excerpt": "Chromium-based browsers actually have had better battery life than Safari for 2 years (!) now[0]. And perform better. Which is a real egg on Apple's face. The only reason to use Safari is because you're knee-deep in the Apple ecosystem, otherwise something like Chrome, Edge or Brave just makes more sense. [0]https://birchtree.me/blog/everyone-says-chrome-devastates-mac-battery-life-but-does-it-i-tested-for-36-hours-t", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "An Update on Orion for Linux and Windows"}]}, {"label": "Fast cert revocation", "summary": "Chrome revoked compromised CA certificates in 1 hour 40 minutes, faster than Mozilla and Apple.", "quotes": [{"id": 803157136, "item_id": 50197321, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50197321", "by": "Arbortheus", "date": "2026-10-22", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Google Chrome revoked these certificates in 1 hour 40 minutes", "excerpt": "According to this blog [1], it has now been almost 5 days since a researcher reported to Apple that the eMudhra CA certificates were compromised. As I am writing, my iPhone 15 Pro is still accepting certificates signed by these compromised CAs. The device is \"up to date\", yet is still running Trust Store Version 2026073000. When I check at [2], certificates issued by 3 eMudhra Intermediate CAs are still being trusted", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "eMudhra to exit global SSL/TLS certificate business"}]}, {"label": "Page translation", "summary": "You can switch languages without reloading the page, unlike in Safari.", "quotes": [{"id": 801268800, "item_id": 50079300, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50079300", "by": "freetime2", "date": "2026-10-13", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "In Chrome you can switch back and forth between languages seamlessly", "excerpt": "Maybe a bit of an edge use case, but I use the translate page feature a lot in browsers. In Chrome you can switch back and forth between languages seamlessly, but in Safari translating a page requires reloading the page - which can cause issues on forms that use POST. Even worse, I've found that switching back to the original language just doesn't work on pages loaded with POST - the page gets stuck on the translated", "context": "", "use_case": "page translation", "switched_from": "", "story": "Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you should ditch Chrome"}]}, {"label": "Daily driver", "summary": "Some use it every day for years and for routine testing.", "quotes": [{"id": 804675490, "item_id": 50292218, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50292218", "by": "sebastiansm7", "date": "2026-10-29", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Android, Maps and Chrome I use it almost daily for years.", "excerpt": "Android, Maps and Chrome I use it almost daily for years. Dont know if are great at revenue, but are great products for me :)", "context": "", "use_case": "web browsing", "switched_from": "", "story": "Google Search is now less than half of Alphabet\u2019s revenue"}, {"id": 801309554, "item_id": 50081847, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50081847", "by": "tisdadd", "date": "2026-10-14", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "that those tests take longer than Firefox and Chrome, my daily drivers", "excerpt": "I do use safari in my playwright tests, and it led to me doing a note on my known limitations page - that those tests take longer than Firefox and Chrome, my daily drivers. But, that could be due to using it on Linux maybe. I do hate having to dig out ios devices for app testing.", "context": "", "use_case": "daily browsing", "switched_from": "", "story": "Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you should ditch Chrome"}]}, {"label": "uBlock Lite works", "summary": "One user says official Chrome with uBlock Lite works perfectly apart from a 5-second startup delay.", "quotes": [{"id": 797753936, "item_id": 49859621, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49859621", "by": "mystifyingpoi", "date": "2026-09-26", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "I use the official Chrome (not Chromium) with uBlock Lite and everything works perfectly", "excerpt": "Your experience is strange, I use the official Chrome (not Chromium) with uBlock Lite and everything works perfectly (except the 5s delay at the start).", "context": "", "use_case": "watching YouTube", "switched_from": "", "story": "PipePipe: NewPipe hard fork implementing SponsorBlock"}]}], "caveats": [{"label": "Web dominance", "summary": "Commenters say Chrome dominates the web, overrides standards efforts and drops features like DANE, JPEG XL and XSLT.", "quotes": [{"id": 802852688, "item_id": 50178293, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50178293", "by": "troupo", "date": "2026-10-21", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "Of course Chrome bulldozed this effort as well", "excerpt": "It's because Chrome has taken over interop. Just like they do with any other useful initiative like OpenUI [1]. It feels like Interop was created to curb Chrome's bulldozing various processes with their own internal APIs and development, and to show that there's more to the web than yet another shitty Javascript API. So a lot of Interop is decidedly everything else. See e.g. Interop 2022: https://hacks.mozilla.org/20", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "The Future of CSS"}, {"id": 803157152, "item_id": 50197322, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50197322", "by": "kensey", "date": "2026-10-22", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "The reason we don't have DANE support in browsers is of course because Google decided not to implement it in Chrome", "excerpt": "This all day. There is no reason I should have to go through a third-party to get a certificate just to distribute a key for secure communications (which is all a DV certificate is good for) if I already own a domain, or can get the domain owner to publish my TLSA record in theirs (which should be no more onerous than publishing the server A record, which they already have to do). The reason we don't have DANE suppor", "context": "", "use_case": "Web browser", "switched_from": "", "story": "eMudhra to exit global SSL/TLS certificate business"}, {"id": 802191296, "item_id": 50136956, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50136956", "by": "_ache_", "date": "2026-10-18", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "Chrome is putting a big red button on any site using XSLT.", "excerpt": "Chrome is putting a big red button on any site using XSLT. I'm for my RSS feed. It's ugly, I will have to move to another solution. It works fine on Firefox. Ex: https://ache.one/en/rss.xml", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Chrome and Edge are removing XSLT: what breaks and what does not"}]}, {"label": "Ad blocking limits", "summary": "The end of Manifest V2 is seen as Google slowly removing ad-blocking freedom.", "quotes": [{"id": 801300992, "item_id": 50081312, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50081312", "by": "geuis", "date": "2026-10-14", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "The death of manifest v2 is the 2nd to last nail.", "excerpt": "I'm old enough to have been in the industry when Chrome launched. It was amazing. It was such a relief to move away from IE and all the arcane levels of details I had to remember back then to artisnaly get IE to behave like a moderately modern (for then) browser. Chrome was fast, did the basic job of correctly rendering pages, and its js runtime was groundbreaking. Node.js was direct outcome of that revolution. Now t", "context": "", "use_case": "web browsing", "switched_from": "", "story": "Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you should ditch Chrome"}, {"id": 798451185, "item_id": 49903199, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49903199", "by": "rpdillon", "date": "2026-09-30", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "Google Chrome is a frog-boiling exercise where they slowly take away freedoms", "excerpt": "It's about alignment of interests. They believe that there is a business that is valuable selling a user-centric browser. A user-centric browser does not exist today. Google Chrome is a frog-boiling exercise where they slowly take away freedoms to run, for example, ad-blocking in the browser and they do so under the name of security. They've already tried to push the web integrity initiative. They'll try again. Mozil", "context": "", "use_case": "web browsing", "switched_from": "", "story": "I switched to Brave"}, {"id": 798153153, "item_id": 49884572, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49884572", "by": "ragequittah", "date": "2026-09-28", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "Chrome: inability to block ads", "excerpt": "I always try to parse this \"Mozilla is doing bad\" as I've been using Firefox for years and other than features I want (vertical tabs, firefox relay, and a few other minor things) I couldn't tell you the difference of Firefox now vs 5 years ago vs 10 years ago. And the \"shooting yourself in the foot\" things talked about are always something that pretty much all other browser companies do but 10 times worse. I think th", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "I switched to Brave"}]}, {"label": "Stability and bugs", "summary": "Users report glitches, out-of-memory issues, buggy printing and audio pops.", "quotes": [{"id": 801232417, "item_id": 50077026, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50077026", "by": "alt227", "date": "2026-10-13", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "I am shocked how glitchy it is in comparison", "excerpt": "Ive used Firefox as my daily driver for around 12 years. I switched to Chrome a couple weeks ago to see what the fuss is about and I am shocked how glitchy it is in comparison. Firefox is a much more stable experience.", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you should ditch Chrome"}, {"id": 801285504, "item_id": 50080344, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50080344", "by": "koinedad", "date": "2026-10-13", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "I see significant out of memory issues with chrome on a regular basis.", "excerpt": "Anecdotally I see significant out of memory issues with chrome on a regular basis. I use chrome for work but safari for personal and rarely see the same issue with safari if almost never.", "context": "", "use_case": "work browsing", "switched_from": "", "story": "Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you should ditch Chrome"}, {"id": 803984177, "item_id": 50249011, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50249011", "by": "adrian_b", "date": "2026-10-26", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "which is extraordinarily buggy in both Firefox and Chrome", "excerpt": "While what you say is correct, the point is that the excessive use of JS is what makes nowadays the print command the only way to save most Web pages. Years ago I was never using the \"print\" command in browsers. I used the \"save\" command. But now the \"save\" command is useless for most sites, because the saved scripts frequently do not work offline or they do not work even online, but from local files. So the only alt", "context": "", "use_case": "printing web pages", "switched_from": "", "story": "Websites Should Be Printable"}]}, {"label": "Privacy and trust", "summary": "Some distrust Google with privacy, and one notes a fingerprint that survives incognito mode.", "quotes": [{"id": 801441249, "item_id": 50090078, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50090078", "by": "SirMaster", "date": "2026-10-14", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "With what Google has been doing to Chrome", "excerpt": "With what Google has been doing to Chrome, and given that I use iOS, I would definitely use Safari on Windows cause I trust Apple more with Privacy, plus the session/tabs/auth/bookmark/applepay etc integration between my phone and Windows laptop/desktop would be great!", "context": "iOS user with Windows laptop/desktop", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you should ditch Chrome"}, {"id": 800818736, "item_id": 50051171, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50051171", "by": "chaostheory", "date": "2026-10-12", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "on chrome based browsers, the fingerprint survives even in incognito mode.", "excerpt": "wow on chrome based browsers, the fingerprint survives even in incognito mode. On Safari, fingerprinting doesn't survive in incognito mode. Same with Firefox. Good thing I use different computers for different purposes, though it looks like using different browsers seems sufficient.", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Fingerprints are the new cookies"}, {"id": 801427248, "item_id": 50089203, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50089203", "by": "origini", "date": "2026-10-14", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "I do not trust my local chrome installation to just manage my passkey.", "excerpt": "Google and other services like PayPal make Passkeys default if you generated one. Now they expect you to always use them to login on all devices. I had to remove my passkey from one device for these services because i also use a PasswordManager and I do not trust my local chrome installation to just manage my passkey. I want to have a Password Manager which I need to unlock when I use it. I also want to keep my 2fa a", "context": "uses a password manager", "use_case": "passkey storage", "switched_from": "", "story": "Passkeys are not a trap"}]}, {"label": "Enterprise management", "summary": "Managing it at work means juggling GPO policies and Google Workspace cloud settings.", "quotes": [{"id": 801332033, "item_id": 50083252, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50083252", "by": "Melatonic", "date": "2026-10-14", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "Currently Chrome is a bit of a mess to manage in enterprise", "excerpt": "Your long term stable branches are a great start - that's what I use at work ! A centralised admin platform that integrates easily with others is of course also great. Currently Chrome is a bit of a mess to manage in enterprise with a mix of more oldschool GPO admx style policies (which are very detailed and robust however) and the cloud managed Google Workspace stuff.", "context": "", "use_case": "enterprise browser management", "switched_from": "", "story": "Firefox Enterprise"}]}, {"label": "Linux install", "summary": "One user found installing it on Linux a pain.", "quotes": [{"id": 797107057, "item_id": 49819191, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49819191", "by": "BizarroLand", "date": "2026-09-23", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "last time I installed it on linux it was a pain", "excerpt": "Real question, why go through the hassle to install chrome on a linux machine? I moved away from chrome a while ago, but last time I installed it on linux it was a pain, and firefox and its derivatives are essentially at feature and speed parity or better than chrome across the board.", "context": "Linux user", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "ReBarUEFI: Resizable BAR for almost any UEFI system"}]}], "who": [{"by": "MisterTea", "context": "IT at a workplace", "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50075652", "date": "2026-10-13"}, {"by": "ben_w", "context": "limits main device to trusted software", "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49990271", "date": "2026-10-07"}, {"by": "davsti4", "context": "Linux user", "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49652881", "date": "2026-09-11"}, {"by": "socalgal2", "context": "uses 3 OSes", "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49326190", "date": "2026-08-16"}, {"by": "temporallobe", "context": "web app developer", "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49046849", "date": "2026-07-25"}, {"by": "echelon", "context": "Mac user", "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48635476", "date": "2026-06-22"}, {"by": "mda_damico", "context": "Ubuntu laptop user", "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48539983", "date": "2026-06-15"}, {"by": "m-schuetz", "context": "web developer", "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48472698", "date": "2026-06-10"}, {"by": "arjie", "context": "iPhone user", "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48057856", "date": "2026-05-07"}, {"by": "alpaca128", "context": "Developer, daily driver M1 MacBook Pro", "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47278858", "date": "2026-03-06"}, {"by": "vampiregrey", "context": "Senior Backend Engineer, 5+ years", "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47220863", "date": "2026-03-02"}, {"by": "shevy-java", "context": "Linux user without PulseAudio", "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47133713", "date": "2026-02-23"}], "tags": ["for daily browsing", "for browser testing", "for translating pages"], "use_cases": ["web browsing", "browsing", "browser", "web browser", "daily browsing", "work browsing"], "compared": [{"slug": "firefox", "name": "Firefox", "co": 381, "switched_from": 14, "switched_to": 31}, {"slug": "safari", "name": "Safari", "co": 128, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 6}, {"slug": "brave", "name": "Brave", "co": 55, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 6}, {"slug": "microsoft-edge", "name": "Microsoft Edge", "co": 48, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 7}, {"slug": "ublock-origin", "name": "uBlock Origin", "co": 46, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 0}, {"slug": "vivaldi", "name": "Vivaldi", "co": 17, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 5}, {"slug": "chromium", "name": "Chromium", "co": 14, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 0}, {"slug": "ungoogled-chromium", "name": "ungoogled-chromium", "co": 9, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 2}], "makers": [{"id": 794296192, "item_id": 49643512, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49643512", "by": "tunetheweb", "date": "2026-09-10", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "We've investigated and found the bug", "excerpt": "We've investigated and found the bug: https://crbug.com/559302209 It's not just Google.com but any site using Compression Dictionary Transport (which google.com was an early adopter of - https://developer.chrome.com/blog/search-compression-dictionaries). The shared dictionaries are an additional storage added with this feature but are not getting correctly cleared on close. A fix is being worked on to resolve that. F", "context": "", "use_case": "web browser", "switched_from": "", "story": "Chrome again exempts Google from user site data settings"}, {"id": 769274000, "item_id": 48079625, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48079625", "by": "pkasting", "date": "2026-05-09", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "I used to maintain Chrome's image decoders", "excerpt": "On the contrary, image decoders all run complex processes that try and guess what to do in erroneous cases. I used to maintain Chrome's image decoders, and every single image format has \"what the spec says\" and then \"what people actually do in practice\"; you must handle the latter, and it is often very difficult to figure out how to do so. For BMPs, for example, determining whether the author intended 24-bit RGB or 3", "context": "Former Chrome image decoder maintainer", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Forking the Web"}, {"id": 764181584, "item_id": 47761349, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47761349", "by": "domenicd", "date": "2026-04-13", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "We tried a few times.", "excerpt": "We tried a few times. We got as far as gating the ability to push into the \"real history stack\" [1] behind a user activation (e.g. click). But, it's easy to get the user to click somewhere: just throw up a cookie banner or an \"expand to see full article\" or similar. We weren't really able to figure out any technical solution beyond this. It would rely on some sort of classification of clicks as leading to \"real\" same", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "A new spam policy for \"back button hijacking\""}, {"id": 735290673, "item_id": 45955667, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45955667", "by": "zetafunction", "date": "2025-11-17", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "I work on Chrome", "excerpt": "https://issues.chromium.org/issues/451401343 tracks work needed in the upstream xml-rs repository, so it seems like the team is working on addressing issues that would affect standards compliance. Disclaimer: I work on Chrome and have occasionally dabbled in libxml2/libxslt in the past, but I'm not directly involved in any of the current work.", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Google is killing the open web, part 2"}], "threads": [{"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48019219", "title": "Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent", "mentions": 40}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45926779", "title": "I think nobody wants AI in Firefox, Mozilla", "mentions": 15}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50072286", "title": "Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you should ditch Chrome", "mentions": 14}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49514878", "title": "Google Has Removed MV2 Extensions from the Chrome Web Store, Including UBO", "mentions": 13}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46299934", "title": "Is Mozilla trying hard to kill itself?", "mentions": 12}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46288491", "title": "Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo", "mentions": 12}], "sentiment_by_month": {"2025-11": {"warn": 29, "recommend": 7, "neutral": 29, "compare": 10}, "2025-12": {"warn": 22, "neutral": 25, "compare": 12, "recommend": 5}, "2026-01": {"warn": 34, "neutral": 25, "compare": 6, "recommend": 9}, "2026-02": {"recommend": 6, "neutral": 14, "compare": 4, "warn": 15}, "2026-03": {"neutral": 21, "warn": 20, "recommend": 5, "compare": 4}, "2026-04": {"neutral": 24, "warn": 27, "recommend": 6, "compare": 4}, "2026-05": {"compare": 10, "recommend": 6, "warn": 44, "neutral": 26}, "2026-06": {"neutral": 19, "compare": 4, "recommend": 10, "warn": 19}, "2026-07": {"neutral": 16, "warn": 19, "recommend": 6, "compare": 3}, "2026-08": {"recommend": 8, "warn": 17, "neutral": 15, "compare": 1}, "2026-09": {"compare": 6, "warn": 20, "neutral": 18, "recommend": 6}, "2026-10": {"neutral": 27, "recommend": 7, "compare": 5, "warn": 18}}, "versions": [], "version_unnamed": 0, "family_ref": null, "runs_on": null, "lines": [], "quotes": [{"id": 804816145, "item_id": 50301009, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50301009", "by": "cubefox", "date": "2026-10-30", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "Chrome just doesn't support them yet", "excerpt": "They are supported by JPEG XL (libjxl \u2265 0.11), Chrome just doesn't support them yet. See https://issues.chromium.org/issues/476652050", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "H.264 Is Magic (2016)"}, {"id": 804797824, "item_id": 50299864, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50299864", "by": "ButlerianJihad", "date": "2026-10-30", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "Chrome may start restricting requests to private networks", "excerpt": "Chrome may start restricting requests to private networks (2021) https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/web/ChromePrivateNetBlocks", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Show HN: Auto Dismiss Mac OS \"Allow <app> to find devices on local networks?\""}, {"id": 804675490, "item_id": 50292218, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50292218", "by": "sebastiansm7", "date": "2026-10-29", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Android, Maps and Chrome I use it almost daily for years.", "excerpt": "Android, Maps and Chrome I use it almost daily for years. Dont know if are great at revenue, but are great products for me :)", "context": "", "use_case": "web browsing", "switched_from": "", "story": "Google Search is now less than half of Alphabet\u2019s revenue"}, {"id": 804426992, "item_id": 50276687, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50276687", "by": "bombcar", "date": "2026-10-28", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "My current chrome reports no at https://one.one.one.one/help/", "excerpt": "\"In May 2020, Chrome switched to DNS over HTTPS by default.\" Welcome to hell. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNS_over_HTTPS (My current chrome reports no at https://one.one.one.one/help/ so maybe I changed it or maybe the default's different now)", "context": "", "use_case": "web browser", "switched_from": "", "story": "Apple's git still trusts the compromised eMudhra certificates"}, {"id": 803984177, "item_id": 50249011, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50249011", "by": "adrian_b", "date": "2026-10-26", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "which is extraordinarily buggy in both Firefox and Chrome", "excerpt": "While what you say is correct, the point is that the excessive use of JS is what makes nowadays the print command the only way to save most Web pages. Years ago I was never using the \"print\" command in browsers. I used the \"save\" command. But now the \"save\" command is useless for most sites, because the saved scripts frequently do not work offline or they do not work even online, but from local files. So the only alt", "context": "", "use_case": "printing web pages", "switched_from": "", "story": "Websites Should Be Printable"}, {"id": 803801008, "item_id": 50237563, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50237563", "by": "zahlman", "date": "2026-10-26", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "It seems even more embarrassing if chromium got the patch but Chrome didn't.", "excerpt": "[Edit: I was inattentive and replied twice in different ways, thinking they were to different parent comments; I've now merged my thoughts and edited them to be more coherent.] > reported This is Mozilla's own discussion of the issue, though. There's mention of > https://github.com/google/brotli/blob/master/SECURITY.md suggests that it should go through Google's regular vulnerability reporting process. I don't have a", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Broccoli2Shell: Brotli decoder RCE in Node.js, Python and more"}, {"id": 803718673, "item_id": 50232417, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50232417", "by": "shanedevane", "date": "2026-10-25", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "Selenium/Chrome drive the 'WOBBOT' crawler", "excerpt": "This was/is a passion project; it's now a directory/web crawler of 958+ makers (artisans, craftspeople, smiths, authors), focusing on interesting people building interesting things around the world. TECH STACK: Selenium/Chrome drive the 'WOBBOT' crawler, with some SerpAPI, Pyton/bs4/html5lib/pillow/spaCy does named-entity extraction, some docling, and DeepSeek v3/v4 (with Ollama/qwen3:4b/gemma4:26b) used for evaluati", "context": "", "use_case": "web crawling", "switched_from": "", "story": "Show HN: Directory 958 inspirational artisans, craftspeople, smiths, for post-AI"}, {"id": 803402400, "item_id": 50212650, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50212650", "by": "johnhenry", "date": "2026-10-23", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "When activated in chrome, nesting currently works, but somehow breaks events.", "excerpt": "Yes. When activated in chrome, nesting currently works, but somehow breaks events. https://johnhenry.github.io/html-in-canvas-lab/", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "The HTML-in-Canvas API origin trial"}, {"id": 803391556, "item_id": 50211972, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50211972", "by": "yamanahlawat", "date": "2026-10-23", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "nothing feels the same", "excerpt": "amen! i was a heavy firefox user, switched to arc now tried zen, dia, chrome, firefox.. nothing feels the same.", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "A farewell to Arc browser"}, {"id": 803325168, "item_id": 50207823, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50207823", "by": "jimmar", "date": "2026-10-23", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "Right now, I'm using Chrome, and I see the \"Relaunch to update\" button waiting for me to press it.", "excerpt": "> Most software, once mature, is mostly done. The caveat being that most software never matures. Maybe it's a cynical take, but virtually all software I use regularly is updated at least once a month. Right now, I'm using Chrome, and I see the \"Relaunch to update\" button waiting for me to press it. I see the arrow on the Ollama icon telling me I have to relaunch it to apply updates. I have Visual Studio Code running ", "context": "", "use_case": "browsing", "switched_from": "", "story": "Is this the new cyber normal?"}, {"id": 803172434, "item_id": 50198277, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50198277", "by": "jaffa2", "date": "2026-10-22", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "chrome for google stuff", "excerpt": "i too like vivaldi for the same reasons. i use brave, chrome for google stuff, firefox if i need a third browser but i use vivaldi mostly. except on mac where i still use safari", "context": "", "use_case": "Google services", "switched_from": "", "story": "A farewell to Arc browser"}, {"id": 803170913, "item_id": 50198182, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50198182", "by": "arjie", "date": "2026-10-22", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "soon returned to Chrome", "excerpt": "Enjoyed using it to start with but soon returned to Chrome. Now I have a personal browser/terminal hybrid I use. Lots of the ideas from arc were good. Sidebar tabs, splits, page editability.", "context": "", "use_case": "web browsing", "switched_from": "Arc", "story": "A farewell to Arc browser"}, {"id": 803157152, "item_id": 50197322, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50197322", "by": "kensey", "date": "2026-10-22", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "The reason we don't have DANE support in browsers is of course because Google decided not to implement it in Chrome", "excerpt": "This all day. There is no reason I should have to go through a third-party to get a certificate just to distribute a key for secure communications (which is all a DV certificate is good for) if I already own a domain, or can get the domain owner to publish my TLSA record in theirs (which should be no more onerous than publishing the server A record, which they already have to do). The reason we don't have DANE suppor", "context": "", "use_case": "Web browser", "switched_from": "", "story": "eMudhra to exit global SSL/TLS certificate business"}, {"id": 803157136, "item_id": 50197321, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50197321", "by": "Arbortheus", "date": "2026-10-22", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Google Chrome revoked these certificates in 1 hour 40 minutes", "excerpt": "According to this blog [1], it has now been almost 5 days since a researcher reported to Apple that the eMudhra CA certificates were compromised. As I am writing, my iPhone 15 Pro is still accepting certificates signed by these compromised CAs. The device is \"up to date\", yet is still running Trust Store Version 2026073000. When I check at [2], certificates issued by 3 eMudhra Intermediate CAs are still being trusted", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "eMudhra to exit global SSL/TLS certificate business"}, {"id": 802852688, "item_id": 50178293, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50178293", "by": "troupo", "date": "2026-10-21", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "Of course Chrome bulldozed this effort as well", "excerpt": "It's because Chrome has taken over interop. Just like they do with any other useful initiative like OpenUI [1]. It feels like Interop was created to curb Chrome's bulldozing various processes with their own internal APIs and development, and to show that there's more to the web than yet another shitty Javascript API. So a lot of Interop is decidedly everything else. See e.g. Interop 2022: https://hacks.mozilla.org/20", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "The Future of CSS"}, {"id": 802607888, "item_id": 50162993, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50162993", "by": "rstuart4133", "date": "2026-10-20", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "Google Chrome is a fine example of this happening right now.", "excerpt": "The conclusion I came to is we are going to move from a hard science where everything is known, to being more like social science where everything is a guess based on confidence intervals. It's what happens when no one human mind knows the system well enough to predict what any small change will have on the rest of it. We call such computer systems \"balls of mud\". [0] says most deployed computer systems are balls of ", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Ask HN: How to deal with shipping AI-written code you don't understand?"}, {"id": 802191296, "item_id": 50136956, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50136956", "by": "_ache_", "date": "2026-10-18", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "Chrome is putting a big red button on any site using XSLT.", "excerpt": "Chrome is putting a big red button on any site using XSLT. I'm for my RSS feed. It's ugly, I will have to move to another solution. It works fine on Firefox. Ex: https://ache.one/en/rss.xml", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Chrome and Edge are removing XSLT: what breaks and what does not"}, {"id": 802054898, "item_id": 50128431, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50128431", "by": "jaffathecake", "date": "2026-10-17", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "", "excerpt": "Are you sure about that? Wouldn't that make the HDR example look bad in Chrome? The source image is 16 bit. https://jakearchibald.com/2026/jpeg-xl-vs-avif/#lossy---hdr", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "JPEG XL vs. AVIF for web use-cases"}, {"id": 801664001, "item_id": 50104000, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50104000", "by": "red_admiral", "date": "2026-10-15", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "ordinary websites you visit in your android chrome browser", "excerpt": "However, this hack could have happened whether sideloading was allowed or not. In fact, following the OP's link to https://citizenlab.ca/research/how-discover-tech-turned-targeted-ads-into-a-pipeline-for-spyware/, \"the company\u2019s ads were shown on almost 200,000 unique websites and Android/iOS apps in dozens of countries\" so it's not just apps but ordinary websites you visit in your android chrome browser.", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "AdFection: Targeted ads turned into a pipeline for zero-click mercenary spyware"}, {"id": 801576976, "item_id": 50098561, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50098561", "by": "themanualstates", "date": "2026-10-15", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "the work to port stuff like Chrome\u2019s UI shell simply hasn\u2019t been done", "excerpt": "Apple already announced it, but the work to port stuff like Chrome\u2019s UI shell simply hasn\u2019t been done. Look at the developer blogs: https://blogs.igalia.com/gyuyoung/2024/08/08/chrome-ios-browser-on-blink/ You can also compile your own, with \u2018use_blink = true\u2019 \u2018in your .setup-gn file\u2019: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/ios/build_instructions.md#Blink-for-tvOS-builds-and-running", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you should ditch Chrome"}, {"id": 801441249, "item_id": 50090078, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50090078", "by": "SirMaster", "date": "2026-10-14", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "With what Google has been doing to Chrome", "excerpt": "With what Google has been doing to Chrome, and given that I use iOS, I would definitely use Safari on Windows cause I trust Apple more with Privacy, plus the session/tabs/auth/bookmark/applepay etc integration between my phone and Windows laptop/desktop would be great!", "context": "iOS user with Windows laptop/desktop", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you should ditch Chrome"}, {"id": 801427248, "item_id": 50089203, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50089203", "by": "origini", "date": "2026-10-14", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "I do not trust my local chrome installation to just manage my passkey.", "excerpt": "Google and other services like PayPal make Passkeys default if you generated one. Now they expect you to always use them to login on all devices. I had to remove my passkey from one device for these services because i also use a PasswordManager and I do not trust my local chrome installation to just manage my passkey. I want to have a Password Manager which I need to unlock when I use it. I also want to keep my 2fa a", "context": "uses a password manager", "use_case": "passkey storage", "switched_from": "", "story": "Passkeys are not a trap"}, {"id": 801404913, "item_id": 50087807, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50087807", "by": "5555624", "date": "2026-10-14", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "while Chrome works fine", "excerpt": "> walmart: still get the \"technical issues\" error page. Try a different browser. I use Waterfox for most general purpose browsing and it rarely works with Walmart.com, while Chrome works fine.", "context": "", "use_case": "sites that break in Waterfox", "switched_from": "", "story": "How Amazon pushes up prices all across the Internet"}, {"id": 801404305, "item_id": 50087769, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50087769", "by": "nchmy", "date": "2026-10-14", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "", "excerpt": "Well, first nothing that apple says should be taken at face value, especially when it comes to the web. But if you're not inclined to educated yourself via the tremendous resource I shared, I suppose you could look at https://wpt.fyi to see how far behind safari lags in supporting features. There's also the fact that a proof of concept port of Microsoft edge to IOS significantly outperformed safari. https://www.there", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Apple: Switch to Safari (From Chrome)"}, {"id": 801370017, "item_id": 50085626, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50085626", "by": "skrause", "date": "2026-10-14", "version": null, "stance": "compare", "quote": "twice as much CPU during YouTube video playback than even Chrome", "excerpt": "I would love to use Firefox exclusively on my Mac, but I also like a long lasting battery. Because of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1941693 Firefox currently uses twice as much CPU during YouTube video playback than even Chrome when you have ProMotion (120 Hz) enabled, significantly reducing battery lifetime. Switching to a different browser every time I want to play a longer YouTube video also isn't t", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Apple: Switch to Safari (From Chrome)"}, {"id": 801368737, "item_id": 50085546, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50085546", "by": "Crestwave", "date": "2026-10-14", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "", "excerpt": "Why not uBlock Origin Lite for Safari? https://apps.apple.com/us/app/ublock-origin-lite/id6745342698", "context": "", "use_case": "Web browsing", "switched_from": "", "story": "Apple: Switch to Safari (From Chrome)"}, {"id": 801367937, "item_id": 50085496, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50085496", "by": "nicfio", "date": "2026-10-14", "version": null, "stance": "compare", "quote": "measure the differences between the various versions of firefox and chrome", "excerpt": "Hi, I ran a test campaign on my machine to measure the differences between the various versions of firefox and chrome. The results are available on Bugzilla: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2081675", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Firefox Enterprise"}, {"id": 801338320, "item_id": 50083645, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50083645", "by": "sjamaan", "date": "2026-10-14", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "why the market dominance of Chrome is such a big deal", "excerpt": "Obligatory updated comic link: https://contrachrome.com/ A good context for why the market dominance of Chrome is such a big deal.", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you should ditch Chrome"}, {"id": 801332033, "item_id": 50083252, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50083252", "by": "Melatonic", "date": "2026-10-14", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "Currently Chrome is a bit of a mess to manage in enterprise", "excerpt": "Your long term stable branches are a great start - that's what I use at work ! A centralised admin platform that integrates easily with others is of course also great. Currently Chrome is a bit of a mess to manage in enterprise with a mix of more oldschool GPO admx style policies (which are very detailed and robust however) and the cloud managed Google Workspace stuff.", "context": "", "use_case": "enterprise browser management", "switched_from": "", "story": "Firefox Enterprise"}, {"id": 801316432, "item_id": 50082277, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50082277", "by": "dannyfritz07", "date": "2026-10-14", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "", "excerpt": "Google Chrome launch comic for nostalgia: https://scottmccloud.com/googlechrome/ Also good context for why the launch of Chrome was such a big deal.", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you should ditch Chrome"}, {"id": 801309554, "item_id": 50081847, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50081847", "by": "tisdadd", "date": "2026-10-14", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "that those tests take longer than Firefox and Chrome, my daily drivers", "excerpt": "I do use safari in my playwright tests, and it led to me doing a note on my known limitations page - that those tests take longer than Firefox and Chrome, my daily drivers. But, that could be due to using it on Linux maybe. I do hate having to dig out ios devices for app testing.", "context": "", "use_case": "daily browsing", "switched_from": "", "story": "Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you should ditch Chrome"}, {"id": 801300992, "item_id": 50081312, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50081312", "by": "geuis", "date": "2026-10-14", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "The death of manifest v2 is the 2nd to last nail.", "excerpt": "I'm old enough to have been in the industry when Chrome launched. It was amazing. It was such a relief to move away from IE and all the arcane levels of details I had to remember back then to artisnaly get IE to behave like a moderately modern (for then) browser. Chrome was fast, did the basic job of correctly rendering pages, and its js runtime was groundbreaking. Node.js was direct outcome of that revolution. Now t", "context": "", "use_case": "web browsing", "switched_from": "", "story": "Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you should ditch Chrome"}, {"id": 801285504, "item_id": 50080344, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50080344", "by": "koinedad", "date": "2026-10-13", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "I see significant out of memory issues with chrome on a regular basis.", "excerpt": "Anecdotally I see significant out of memory issues with chrome on a regular basis. I use chrome for work but safari for personal and rarely see the same issue with safari if almost never.", "context": "", "use_case": "work browsing", "switched_from": "", "story": "Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you should ditch Chrome"}, {"id": 801268800, "item_id": 50079300, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50079300", "by": "freetime2", "date": "2026-10-13", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "In Chrome you can switch back and forth between languages seamlessly", "excerpt": "Maybe a bit of an edge use case, but I use the translate page feature a lot in browsers. In Chrome you can switch back and forth between languages seamlessly, but in Safari translating a page requires reloading the page - which can cause issues on forms that use POST. Even worse, I've found that switching back to the original language just doesn't work on pages loaded with POST - the page gets stuck on the translated", "context": "", "use_case": "page translation", "switched_from": "", "story": "Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you should ditch Chrome"}, {"id": 801259041, "item_id": 50078690, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50078690", "by": "jedberg", "date": "2026-10-13", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "Chrome for accessing google owned properties and things I click on from Google search", "excerpt": "I use all three browsers on a daily basis. Chrome for accessing google owned properties and things I click on from Google search, Safari for reddit and hacker news, and Firefox for everything else. Safari is always the best on my Mac, but my complaint has always been the lack of plugins. But just now I ported one of my favorite plugins from Chrome to Safari using ChatGPT. I told it I already have it installed in Chro", "context": "", "use_case": "Google properties", "switched_from": "", "story": "Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you should ditch Chrome"}, {"id": 801240594, "item_id": 50077537, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50077537", "by": "secretsatan", "date": "2026-10-13", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "i also have have chrome installed as some websites are so buggy otherwise", "excerpt": "I recently downgraded one of my macs so i could use some 32 bit audio peripherals. You can\u2019t update safari separately from the os i found out, and most websites now just won\u2019t render with that os and if they do, barely work. I installed firefox and that was fine. OTH, i use safari on my other mac, it\u2019s fine most of the time, but i also have have chrome installed as some websites are so buggy otherwise, linkedin is a ", "context": "", "use_case": "fallback for buggy sites", "switched_from": "", "story": "Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you should ditch Chrome"}, {"id": 801237041, "item_id": 50077315, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50077315", "by": "roughly", "date": "2026-10-13", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "at work, I use Chrome like everyone else", "excerpt": "Also, half the sites on the Internet don\u2019t work properly on anything but chrome. At home, I\u2019m an ardent and committed Firefox user, at work, I use Chrome like everyone else (and keep anything personal as far away from it as I can).", "context": "", "use_case": "work browsing", "switched_from": "", "story": "Firefox Enterprise"}, {"id": 801233921, "item_id": 50077120, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50077120", "by": "LoganDark", "date": "2026-10-13", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "I keep an instance of Chrome open for tabs that I never really close.", "excerpt": "Here are some reasons I don't use Safari in place of Chrome for certain things: - it doesn't like to serialize the state of tabs. Chrome is pretty good at somehow snapshotting the entire state of tabs to the point where it can be reconstructed after relaunch, even offline. - webpage loading is sort of janky. Chrome will show the webpage streaming in live, but Safari will simply freeze in place until it's done. Maybe ", "context": "", "use_case": "persistent tabs", "switched_from": "", "story": "Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you should ditch Chrome"}, {"id": 801232417, "item_id": 50077026, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50077026", "by": "alt227", "date": "2026-10-13", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "I am shocked how glitchy it is in comparison", "excerpt": "Ive used Firefox as my daily driver for around 12 years. I switched to Chrome a couple weeks ago to see what the fuss is about and I am shocked how glitchy it is in comparison. Firefox is a much more stable experience.", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you should ditch Chrome"}, {"id": 801230273, "item_id": 50076892, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50076892", "by": "jasode", "date": "2026-10-13", "version": null, "stance": "compare", "quote": "it's still not quite equal to Chrome for Youtube 4k playback", "excerpt": "Many replies about Firefox having no problems on Youtube but I will confirm your complaint that it's an ongoing issue for some of us. I keep retrying Firefox over multiple years and it's still not quite equal to Chrome for Youtube 4k playback ... 2021: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28783904 2024: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42176450 2026 still talks about the problem: https://go.tabbit.ai/blog/firefox", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you should ditch Chrome"}, {"id": 801224753, "item_id": 50076547, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50076547", "by": "zaphar", "date": "2026-10-13", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Chrome at least works for any web standard which IE did not.", "excerpt": "I use safari regularly and it has not really kept up. All kinds of stuff that is partly broken for rendering. Especially on heavily dynamic sites. Chrome at least works for any web standard which IE did not.", "context": "", "use_case": "web browsing", "switched_from": "", "story": "Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you should ditch Chrome"}, {"id": 799128274, "item_id": 49945517, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49945517", "by": "jorvi", "date": "2026-10-03", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "otherwise something like Chrome, Edge or Brave just makes more sense.", "excerpt": "Chromium-based browsers actually have had better battery life than Safari for 2 years (!) now[0]. And perform better. Which is a real egg on Apple's face. The only reason to use Safari is because you're knee-deep in the Apple ecosystem, otherwise something like Chrome, Edge or Brave just makes more sense. [0]https://birchtree.me/blog/everyone-says-chrome-devastates-mac-battery-life-but-does-it-i-tested-for-36-hours-t", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "An Update on Orion for Linux and Windows"}, {"id": 798451185, "item_id": 49903199, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49903199", "by": "rpdillon", "date": "2026-09-30", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "Google Chrome is a frog-boiling exercise where they slowly take away freedoms", "excerpt": "It's about alignment of interests. They believe that there is a business that is valuable selling a user-centric browser. A user-centric browser does not exist today. Google Chrome is a frog-boiling exercise where they slowly take away freedoms to run, for example, ad-blocking in the browser and they do so under the name of security. They've already tried to push the web integrity initiative. They'll try again. Mozil", "context": "", "use_case": "web browsing", "switched_from": "", "story": "I switched to Brave"}, {"id": 797805201, "item_id": 49862825, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49862825", "by": "dataflow", "date": "2026-09-27", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "For Chrome the speed was probably the biggest factor", "excerpt": "Thanks for asking. Depends what time period you're asking about. My memory's faded so there may be inaccuracies here or things may be out of order, but this is what I remember. There was a long era (years) when I loved Mozilla and used Firefox -- and then even Waterfox, IIRC because it was 64-bit -- exclusively. (As well as Thunderbird.) I did not like Chrome. IIRC at some point they started feeling like every update", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "Firefox", "story": "PipePipe: NewPipe hard fork implementing SponsorBlock"}]}