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From the docs for Zircon (Fuchsia\u2019s kernel) [0]: > Zircon targets modern phones and modern personal computers with fast processors, non-trivial amounts of ram with arbitrary peripherals doing open ended computation. Fuchsia also had a Linux compatibility layer similar to WSL1 at some point. Might still be there? [0]: https://fuchsia.dev/fuchsia-src/concepts/kernel/zx_and_lk", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Gemini 4 Argon"}, {"id": 736989376, "item_id": 46061836, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46061836", "by": "the_real_cher", "date": "2025-11-26", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "I was excited about another alternative to The Big Three os's.", "excerpt": "Whatever happened to fuchsia!? 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