{"slug": "dia-browser", "name": "Dia Browser", "category": "browsers", "category_name": "Browsers and extensions", "description": "", "recommenders": 3, "commenters": 20, "warners": 9, "score": -3.754, "rising": 1.67, "first": "2025-12-28", "latest": "2026-10-27", "why": "At this point, everything I used in Arc is in Dia.", "why_is_quote": true, "has_verdict": false, "sentiment": {"recommend": 3, "neutral": 6, "compare": 2, "warn": 9}, "spark": [0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 2], "listed": true, "loved": [], "caveat": "", "short_quote": "At this point, everything I used in Arc is in Dia.", "kind": "", "icon": true, "domain": "diabrowser.com", "github_repo": null, "official_url": "https://www.diabrowser.com", "pricing": "", "aliases": ["Dia", "Dia Browser"], "verdict": null, "praise": [{"label": "", "summary": "", "quotes": [{"id": 803266736, "item_id": 50204171, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50204171", "by": "dadrian", "date": "2026-10-23", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "At this point, everything I used in Arc is in Dia.", "excerpt": "At this point, everything I used in Arc is in Dia.", "context": "", "use_case": "web browsing", "switched_from": "Arc", "story": "A farewell to Arc browser"}, {"id": 801193985, "item_id": 50074624, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50074624", "by": "pmkary", "date": "2026-10-13", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "some browsers (Arc, Dia) are so gorgeous you don't want to work with anything else", "excerpt": "I don't get why Mozilla's designs are so ugly. It's 2026, everyone has beautiful designs and some browsers (Arc, Dia) are so gorgeous you don't want to work with anything else. And then this not-even-released mail app looks like old Bootstrap web apps. I used to love Mozilla for having some of the most beautiful designs. The era of Forefox OS and Firefox 4 with their beautiful beautiful designs and then they said no;", "context": "", "use_case": "browsing", "switched_from": "", "story": "Thunderbird for iOS"}, {"id": 768430400, "item_id": 48026900, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48026900", "by": "liminis", "date": "2026-05-05", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Isn't that essentially Dia? (Pro is 20USD/month.)", "excerpt": "Isn't that essentially Dia? (Pro is 20USD/month.) https://www.diabrowser.com/ (I miss Arc, such a shame it only gets security/chromium updates now ...) And I think Codex's desktop client has a built-in browser now? At least I've seen someone using something like that. Nevermind Atlas is a thing now too. https://openai.com/index/introducing-chatgpt-atlas/ (Tell me if I'm misunderstanding you?)", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent"}]}], "caveats": [{"label": "", "summary": "", "quotes": [{"id": 804276497, "item_id": 50267281, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50267281", "by": "warthog", "date": "2026-10-27", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "in Dia, you cannot even turn off AI", "excerpt": "Arc Browser (my browser for 5-6 years straight) shuts down soon with basically no similar alternatives offering the same UX. There are many Chromium forks out there but they mostly keep adding AI to a browser that does not need it (in Dia, you cannot even turn off AI) or are buggy with bad UX. So directed a bunch of agents into Arc to try and copy Arc as a seperate app locally, blocking Browser Company servers and cl", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Art: Keep using Arc after shutdown"}, {"id": 803218864, "item_id": 50201179, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50201179", "by": "saharshpruthi", "date": "2026-10-22", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "I used it for a month and came back, it was not a good experience.", "excerpt": "Dia is not a replacement for Arc, its for a different user entirely with different objectives. They are trying to add Arc features into Dia, but its an afterthought. I used it for a month and came back, it was not a good experience.", "context": "former Arc user", "use_case": "browser", "switched_from": "", "story": "A farewell to Arc browser"}, {"id": 803202689, "item_id": 50200168, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50200168", "by": "wave84", "date": "2026-10-22", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "cancelled the download when I noticed it was 861 MB large. That seems... absurd.", "excerpt": "This is kinda sad, Arc was the perfect browser for me. I wanted to give it a shot and download Dia, but cancelled the download when I noticed it was 861 MB large. That seems... absurd. For reference, the entire Windows 2000 installation kit was something like 370 MB. Mozilla Firefox 1.0 was 4.7 MB. Apples and oranges perhaps, but still, what is going on with software these days?", "context": "", "use_case": "web browsing", "switched_from": "", "story": "A farewell to Arc browser"}, {"id": 803188656, "item_id": 50199291, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50199291", "by": "kvam", "date": "2026-10-22", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "I will not switch to Dia", "excerpt": "I will not switch to Dia, however easy they make it. Why? Bacause I don\u2019t want to be pushed towards a $100 per month plan where the \u00abkey feature\u00bb is an AI morning brief. https://www.diabrowser.com/plans", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "A farewell to Arc browser"}]}], "who": [{"by": "artdigital", "context": "early user, grandfathered into free AI features", "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50202880", "date": "2026-10-23"}], "tags": [], "use_cases": ["web browsing", "browser", "browsing", "web browsing, ai features", "replacement for arc", "search"], "compared": [{"slug": "arc", "name": "Arc", "co": 13, "switched_from": 2, "switched_to": 0}, {"slug": "zen-browser", "name": "Zen Browser", "co": 3, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 0}, {"slug": "firefox", "name": "Firefox", "co": 2, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 0}], "makers": [], "threads": [{"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50197601", "title": "A farewell to Arc browser", "mentions": 8}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50072913", "title": "Thunderbird for iOS", "mentions": 2}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49286427", "title": "Ask HN: What browser do you use?", "mentions": 2}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50267280", "title": "Art: Keep using Arc after shutdown", "mentions": 1}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49131438", "title": "Stateless MCP has recaptured my interest", "mentions": 1}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48019219", "title": "Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent", "mentions": 1}], "sentiment_by_month": {"2025-11": {}, "2025-12": {"compare": 1}, "2026-01": {}, "2026-02": {"neutral": 1}, "2026-03": {"warn": 1}, "2026-04": {"neutral": 1}, "2026-05": {"warn": 1, "recommend": 1}, "2026-06": {}, "2026-07": {}, "2026-08": {"neutral": 2, "warn": 1}, "2026-09": {}, "2026-10": {"recommend": 2, "warn": 6, "compare": 1, "neutral": 2}}, "versions": [], "version_unnamed": 0, "family_ref": null, "runs_on": null, "lines": [], "quotes": [{"id": 804276497, "item_id": 50267281, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50267281", "by": "warthog", "date": "2026-10-27", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "in Dia, you cannot even turn off AI", "excerpt": "Arc Browser (my browser for 5-6 years straight) shuts down soon with basically no similar alternatives offering the same UX. There are many Chromium forks out there but they mostly keep adding AI to a browser that does not need it (in Dia, you cannot even turn off AI) or are buggy with bad UX. So directed a bunch of agents into Arc to try and copy Arc as a seperate app locally, blocking Browser Company servers and cl", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Art: Keep using Arc after shutdown"}, {"id": 803391555, "item_id": 50211972, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50211972", "by": "yamanahlawat", "date": "2026-10-23", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "nothing feels the same", "excerpt": "amen! i was a heavy firefox user, switched to arc now tried zen, dia, chrome, firefox.. nothing feels the same.", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "A farewell to Arc browser"}, {"id": 803266736, "item_id": 50204171, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50204171", "by": "dadrian", "date": "2026-10-23", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "At this point, everything I used in Arc is in Dia.", "excerpt": "At this point, everything I used in Arc is in Dia.", "context": "", "use_case": "web browsing", "switched_from": "Arc", "story": "A farewell to Arc browser"}, {"id": 803246080, "item_id": 50202880, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50202880", "by": "artdigital", "date": "2026-10-23", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "I use Dia now and then", "excerpt": "Oh weird. I use Dia now and then and noticed my ability to upgrade vanished, but I still have access to all the AI features and the morning brief things. I just assumed the Atlassian acquisition made it free for everyone. Is that not the case? Do people here actually see a upgrade prompt? /EDIT: I looked into this by... well, asking Dia: > That fits what I described. You aren't on a plan because you haven't had to pi", "context": "early user, grandfathered into free AI features", "use_case": "web browsing, AI features", "switched_from": "", "story": "A farewell to Arc browser"}, {"id": 803218864, "item_id": 50201179, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50201179", "by": "saharshpruthi", "date": "2026-10-22", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "I used it for a month and came back, it was not a good experience.", "excerpt": "Dia is not a replacement for Arc, its for a different user entirely with different objectives. They are trying to add Arc features into Dia, but its an afterthought. I used it for a month and came back, it was not a good experience.", "context": "former Arc user", "use_case": "browser", "switched_from": "", "story": "A farewell to Arc browser"}, {"id": 803202689, "item_id": 50200168, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50200168", "by": "wave84", "date": "2026-10-22", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "cancelled the download when I noticed it was 861 MB large. That seems... absurd.", "excerpt": "This is kinda sad, Arc was the perfect browser for me. I wanted to give it a shot and download Dia, but cancelled the download when I noticed it was 861 MB large. That seems... absurd. For reference, the entire Windows 2000 installation kit was something like 370 MB. Mozilla Firefox 1.0 was 4.7 MB. Apples and oranges perhaps, but still, what is going on with software these days?", "context": "", "use_case": "web browsing", "switched_from": "", "story": "A farewell to Arc browser"}, {"id": 803188656, "item_id": 50199291, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50199291", "by": "kvam", "date": "2026-10-22", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "I will not switch to Dia", "excerpt": "I will not switch to Dia, however easy they make it. Why? Bacause I don\u2019t want to be pushed towards a $100 per month plan where the \u00abkey feature\u00bb is an AI morning brief. https://www.diabrowser.com/plans", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "A farewell to Arc browser"}, {"id": 803180066, "item_id": 50198754, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50198754", "by": "usrme", "date": "2026-10-22", "version": null, "stance": "compare", "quote": "I'd really want to be on Dia as I have much respect for its original creators", "excerpt": "I've been using Arc for years now and am really sad to see it being sunset, but am now trying my luck with Zen browser. I'd really want to be on Dia as I have much respect for its original creators, but Atlassian being behind it kind of leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I even tried to import my Arc account into Dia to get everything done and dusted quickly, but it failed to do so, asked me to try again in a few minute", "context": "", "use_case": "replacement for Arc", "switched_from": "Arc", "story": "A farewell to Arc browser"}, {"id": 803179920, "item_id": 50198745, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50198745", "by": "oldfuture", "date": "2026-10-22", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "the privacy of this one doesn't look so good tbh", "excerpt": "the privacy of this one doesn't look so good tbh https://www.diabrowser.com/privacy", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "A farewell to Arc browser"}, {"id": 801226802, "item_id": 50076675, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50076675", "by": "edukite", "date": "2026-10-13", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "Dia looks like ChatGPT web client. It's mediocre at best", "excerpt": "I'll throw my nickel to this comment. I use swaywm with i3bar, you literally can go lower with that taste but I'm at least aware and honest with my taste. Dia looks like ChatGPT web client. It's mediocre at best", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Thunderbird for iOS"}, {"id": 801193985, "item_id": 50074624, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50074624", "by": "pmkary", "date": "2026-10-13", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "some browsers (Arc, Dia) are so gorgeous you don't want to work with anything else", "excerpt": "I don't get why Mozilla's designs are so ugly. It's 2026, everyone has beautiful designs and some browsers (Arc, Dia) are so gorgeous you don't want to work with anything else. And then this not-even-released mail app looks like old Bootstrap web apps. I used to love Mozilla for having some of the most beautiful designs. The era of Forefox OS and Firefox 4 with their beautiful beautiful designs and then they said no;", "context": "", "use_case": "browsing", "switched_from": "", "story": "Thunderbird for iOS"}, {"id": 788592289, "item_id": 49287018, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49287018", "by": "Pieczasz", "date": "2026-08-13", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "I was not willing to switch to Dia looking at what The Browser Company did to arc", "excerpt": "It's plenty of RAM, I think it's not your machine's fault, it's just that Dia afaik uses chromium and chromium likes ram, I used to use arc, and I was not willing to switch to Dia looking at what The Browser Company did to arc", "context": "", "use_case": "browsing", "switched_from": "", "story": "Ask HN: What browser do you use?"}, {"id": 788590736, "item_id": 49286921, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49286921", "by": "moizrocky1", "date": "2026-08-13", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "I've been using Dia, and this got better after the recent inclusion of Spaces similar to Arc.", "excerpt": "I've been using Dia, and this got better after the recent inclusion of Spaces similar to Arc. But, I'm suffering from RAM issues. Got 24GM RAM M5 (Non-Pro) MacBook Pro and about 10-15 tabs open, I'm consuming 19GB RAM with 5-9GB RAM in swap. I mean... now I'm wondering if I should've got higher RAM. Since I came from Air M1 8GB RAM, I thought 24GB is plenty enough but seems like not.", "context": "", "use_case": "browser", "switched_from": "", "story": "Ask HN: What browser do you use?"}, {"id": 786875024, "item_id": 49179689, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49179689", "by": "SoKamil", "date": "2026-08-05", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "", "excerpt": "> and then became somewhat eclipsed by Skills (another Anthropic invention) I thought it was The Browser Company\u2019s invention? https://claude.com/blog/skills > Introducing Agent Skills > October 16, 2025 I can find articles and Reddit posts about Dia Browser\u2019s Skills from July 2025.", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Stateless MCP has recaptured my interest"}, {"id": 768430400, "item_id": 48026900, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48026900", "by": "liminis", "date": "2026-05-05", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Isn't that essentially Dia? (Pro is 20USD/month.)", "excerpt": "Isn't that essentially Dia? (Pro is 20USD/month.) https://www.diabrowser.com/ (I miss Arc, such a shame it only gets security/chromium updates now ...) And I think Codex's desktop client has a built-in browser now? At least I've seen someone using something like that. Nevermind Atlas is a thing now too. https://openai.com/index/introducing-chatgpt-atlas/ (Tell me if I'm misunderstanding you?)", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent"}, {"id": 768357922, "item_id": 48022370, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48022370", "by": "Topfi", "date": "2026-05-05", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "missing some of the greatest failures like Bard, Dia Browser, Sora", "excerpt": "> Bing AI - Acquired by Microsoft. > Microsoft's Bing search engine with AI-enhanced features The product has since been folded into Microsoft; visitors to the original URL are now redirected to copilot.microsoft.com. What? Besides the fact that Bing was always a MSFT product, the LLM assisted search feature on Bing is still separate [0] from copilot.microsoft.com. At most it was a rename, though Copilot on the MSFT ", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "AI Product Graveyard"}, {"id": 766234177, "item_id": 47889636, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47889636", "by": "shivaniShimpi_", "date": "2026-04-24", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "tried dia for a bit but that's a bit of an underkill", "excerpt": "i've stopped using google since forever now, i love how claude in terminal spoils me w websearch and stuff :P tbh if you come across some good SEs, i'm open to suggestion. tried dia for a bit but that's a bit of an underkill", "context": "", "use_case": "search", "switched_from": "", "story": "Ask HN: Has anyone else found Google unusable lately?"}, {"id": 761218832, "item_id": 47576177, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47576177", "by": "mista_v", "date": "2026-03-30", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "I keep trying Dia every few months, but... nah.", "excerpt": "Same here.. I keep trying Dia every few months, but... nah. Not even after they tried to put back all the features that we love about Arc (it's just not the same).", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Show HN: Refrax \u2013 my Arc Browser replacement I made from scratch"}, {"id": 751772641, "item_id": 46985790, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46985790", "by": "alwillis", "date": "2026-02-11", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "It's been nearly a year since Dia launched", "excerpt": "> Macs were only 8% of Apple's 2025 revenue. If the Mac were its own standalone business, it would rank at no. 134 on the Fortune 500 with $33.7 billion in revenue. Also, that's a 12% increase in revenue compared to 2024. If anything, AI has brought more attention to the Mac. Just about every major AI app is released for the Mac first. I've seen complaints about it on HN. The latest is Claude Cowork. It was released ", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Apple's Siri revamp reportedly delayed again"}, {"id": 742580434, "item_id": 46411277, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46411277", "by": "networkdude", "date": "2025-12-28", "version": null, "stance": "compare", "quote": "Visio, draw.io, or dia do the logical layer nicely but it\u2019s very difficult to lay out the ports consistently", "excerpt": "Not an audio guy but a network guy. This looks like a really nice tool for doing physical diagrams to include port information. Normally the tools I use for this like Visio, draw.io, or dia do the logical layer nicely but it\u2019s very difficult to lay out the ports consistently and have them flow. If others have better options for doing physical layer drawings I\u2019d love any tips! :)", "context": "network engineer", "use_case": "network diagrams", "switched_from": "", "story": "Show HN: PatchMyGear \u2013 a living map for your studio gear (cables and checklist)"}]}