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It was a project that started innocently enough, but its domain is unbelievably complex. Recovering MIPS relocation spots from a Ghidra database sounds like an easy enough task, until you're confronted with behemoth functions that span thousands of instructions and undocumented psABI extensions that produces edge cases from Hell. But then, someone contribute", "context": "maintainer of ghidra-delinker-extension", "use_case": "tests, refactoring, investigations", "switched_from": "", "story": "It's OK to abandon your side-project"}, {"id": 775350640, "item_id": 48459415, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48459415", "by": "CrzyLngPwd", "date": "2026-06-09", "stance": "neutral", "quote": "I used copilot to make a basic MCP server for a large DB", "excerpt": "I used copilot to make a basic MCP server for a large DB, so it could write better queries. I also got it to write a mysql DB importer I could use instead of \"mysql\", since I often import large DBs locally. I wanted progress, estimated completion time, and I wanted it to prevent my machine from going to sleep during the import.", "context": "", "use_case": "writing MCP server and DB importer", "switched_from": "", "story": "Ask HN: What are tools you have made for yourself since the advent of AI"}, {"id": 751305378, "item_id": 46956586, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46956586", "by": "0xbadcafebee", "date": "2026-02-09", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "how come I'm getting solid results from Copilot and Haiku/Flash?", "excerpt": "Local models are decent now. Qwen3 coder is pretty good and decent speed. I use smaller models (qwen2.5:1.5b) with keyboard shortcuts and speech to text to ask for man page entries, and get 'em back faster than my internet connection and a \"robust\" frontier model does. And web search/RAG hides a multitude of sins. \"Using anything other than the frontier models is actively harmful\" - so how come I'm getting solid resu", "context": "", "use_case": "agentic coding", "switched_from": "", "story": "Eight More Months of Agents"}]}, {"text": " and for everyday troubleshooting questions.", "cites": [{"id": 804459072, "item_id": 50278692, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50278692", "by": "ButlerianJihad", "date": "2026-10-28", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "I've had many Copilot discussions about minor and major health annoyances, and they've mostly been productive.", "excerpt": "I've had many Copilot discussions about minor and major health annoyances, and they've mostly been productive. Often, I just want to go to the doctor to find out \"ugh what even IS THIS?\" I seek a diagnosis, but providers don't work like that! So it's preferable to do armchair self-diagnosis that doesn't cost anything, from the comfort of my own home. It's especially useful to know \"will this wind up in an E.D. visit?", "context": "", "use_case": "health self-diagnosis", "switched_from": "", "story": "She Worried About Cutting Her Medication Dose. ChatGPT Told Her to Push On"}, {"id": 782746673, "item_id": 48921667, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48921667", "by": "PaulHoule", "date": "2026-07-15", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Copilot offered me a script to tell if the modules are busted after a kernel upgrade", "excerpt": "My two Win 11 machines have been pretty solid for a while, but my Ubuntu Linux machine has had a lot of trouble with software updates. When I built the machine about 12 years ago [1] it allocated a /boot partition that was big enough then but not big enough but as Ubuntu grew the /boot was too small to keep as many versions as Ubuntu wanted so kernel upgrades needed manual intervention. And for that machine it is a h", "context": "", "use_case": "fixing driver module issues", "switched_from": "", "story": "Ask HN: Is it just me, or is software buggier across the board?"}]}, {"text": " The most common complaint is that it is pushed into Windows and Office with no easy way to turn it off", "cites": [{"id": 743141396, "item_id": 46446337, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46446337", "by": "pcblues", "date": "2025-12-31", "stance": "warn", "quote": "Not being able to make Copilot disappear is annoying.", "excerpt": "I haven't had a _terrible_ UI experience with Win 11 that Apple hasn't put me through already. But it took away my sideways toolbar. I don't click anything that loads edge, like \"Show me more from the web\" type links. So I don't see ads. I use firefox and thunderbird. The telemetry all the way through the operating system sucks ethically. But I'm invested and familiar with Windows and Office. Not being able to make C", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "2025 was a disaster for Windows 11"}, {"id": 735384274, "item_id": 45961517, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45961517", "by": "ChicagoDave", "date": "2025-11-17", "stance": "warn", "quote": "Office products are bastardized with copilot buttons everywhere.", "excerpt": "Microsoft has gone full-blown evil corporation again. No customer validation on any of the AI cruft. No full OPT OUT. Office products are bastardized with copilot buttons everywhere. I've been a Windows user from day one and I now see a future without it. Satya had been a bright spot in Microsoft, but this blind lust for AI, especially in bed with Altman who is pure con artist, is unforgivable. Some of the investment", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders"}, {"id": 735416754, "item_id": 45963547, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45963547", "by": "bilekas", "date": "2025-11-18", "stance": "warn", "quote": "at least there wont be a copilot slop gen on my machine", "excerpt": "I picked up a new laptop recently and the thing comes with a dedicated copilot button, cutting space from the spacebar, it's infuriating. I disable the shortcut to open the slop generator but after each windows update, it reactivates. I realised I don't actually need windows anymore, my light gaming is fine with the proton layer and for personal development I rarely use dotnet anymore and even when I do, I use .net c", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders"}, {"id": 748367138, "item_id": 46772946, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46772946", "by": "eleventhborn", "date": "2026-01-26", "stance": "warn", "quote": "I'm not getting the appeal of copilot at all.", "excerpt": "Coming from a Gsuite + Atlassian + AWS world to an all-inclusive Microsoft world was an experience. It should be in the bucket list for every developer to try once in their life. WSL is a far better developer environment in Windows even for dotnet based development. I use it at work. It is fine. Windows OS on the other hand is a mess. There are dedicated keyboard shortcut (win + c), keyboard buttons, buttons on deskt", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "State of the Windows: What is going on with Windows 11?"}]}, {"text": ", and others report degraded quality and quotas that run out fast.", "cites": [{"id": 783097249, "item_id": 48943578, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48943578", "by": "arman-w-jalili", "date": "2026-07-16", "stance": "warn", "quote": "at work we have copilot, i'm not sure, but the quality of service has got degraded in my opinion, speed is very low", "excerpt": "at the moment private i use mainly deepseek, about 80% and very very happy with it, at work we have copilot, i'm not sure, but the quality of service has got degraded in my opinion, speed is very low, i casually get error, api not available, especially gemeni-flash ,i have the feeling GPT5.4 is not as good as before, and with serious work i burn all my 400\u20ac budget in 4 days", "context": "", "use_case": "work coding assistant", "switched_from": "", "story": "What % of your usage is open source vs. frontier models?"}, {"id": 767002482, "item_id": 47937655, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47937655", "by": "lgl", "date": "2026-04-28", "stance": "warn", "quote": "Due to the copilot nerfing recently", "excerpt": "Due to the copilot nerfing recently I've switched to codex and gpt 5.4 (and now especially 5.5) have been doing pretty great. But even codex has these super weird time limits. It's really starting to show that these companies must have been losing a ton of money with all the recent limits and degration. I'm still on the \"camp\" that most of these unicorns will be F'ed by open and local models in the next few years, at", "context": "", "use_case": "coding", "switched_from": "", "story": "Ask HN: Is it just me or is Claude Code getting worst?"}, {"id": 800122304, "item_id": 50007644, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50007644", "by": "diegolas", "date": "2026-10-08", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "i think the harness is the best for writing and reviewing code.", "excerpt": "i use windows by choice and would personally pay for copilot if the quotas didn't dry up so fast for the cheapest plan. i think the harness is the best for writing and reviewing code.", "context": "", "use_case": "writing and reviewing code", "switched_from": "", "story": "Meta and Microsoft take steps to reduce employee usage of Claude AI"}]}], "praise": [{"label": "Coding help", "summary": "Helps write, review and build code, from small tools to a complex reverse-engineering project.", "quotes": [{"id": 800122304, "item_id": 50007644, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50007644", "by": "diegolas", "date": "2026-10-08", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "i think the harness is the best for writing and reviewing code.", "excerpt": "i use windows by choice and would personally pay for copilot if the quotas didn't dry up so fast for the cheapest plan. i think the harness is the best for writing and reviewing code.", "context": "", "use_case": "writing and reviewing code", "switched_from": "", "story": "Meta and Microsoft take steps to reduce employee usage of Claude AI"}, {"id": 766714464, "item_id": 47919654, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47919654", "by": "boricj", "date": "2026-04-27", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Copilot saved this project and I really mean it.", "excerpt": "I used to think about abandoning ghidra-delinker-extension. It was a project that started innocently enough, but its domain is unbelievably complex. Recovering MIPS relocation spots from a Ghidra database sounds like an easy enough task, until you're confronted with behemoth functions that span thousands of instructions and undocumented psABI extensions that produces edge cases from Hell. But then, someone contribute", "context": "maintainer of ghidra-delinker-extension", "use_case": "tests, refactoring, investigations", "switched_from": "", "story": "It's OK to abandon your side-project"}, {"id": 775350640, "item_id": 48459415, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48459415", "by": "CrzyLngPwd", "date": "2026-06-09", "stance": "neutral", "quote": "I used copilot to make a basic MCP server for a large DB", "excerpt": "I used copilot to make a basic MCP server for a large DB, so it could write better queries. I also got it to write a mysql DB importer I could use instead of \"mysql\", since I often import large DBs locally. I wanted progress, estimated completion time, and I wanted it to prevent my machine from going to sleep during the import.", "context": "", "use_case": "writing MCP server and DB importer", "switched_from": "", "story": "Ask HN: What are tools you have made for yourself since the advent of AI"}]}, {"label": "Everyday troubleshooting", "summary": "Useful for working through practical problems like health questions and Linux kernel upgrade issues.", "quotes": [{"id": 804459072, "item_id": 50278692, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50278692", "by": "ButlerianJihad", "date": "2026-10-28", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "I've had many Copilot discussions about minor and major health annoyances, and they've mostly been productive.", "excerpt": "I've had many Copilot discussions about minor and major health annoyances, and they've mostly been productive. Often, I just want to go to the doctor to find out \"ugh what even IS THIS?\" I seek a diagnosis, but providers don't work like that! So it's preferable to do armchair self-diagnosis that doesn't cost anything, from the comfort of my own home. It's especially useful to know \"will this wind up in an E.D. visit?", "context": "", "use_case": "health self-diagnosis", "switched_from": "", "story": "She Worried About Cutting Her Medication Dose. ChatGPT Told Her to Push On"}, {"id": 782746673, "item_id": 48921667, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48921667", "by": "PaulHoule", "date": "2026-07-15", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Copilot offered me a script to tell if the modules are busted after a kernel upgrade", "excerpt": "My two Win 11 machines have been pretty solid for a while, but my Ubuntu Linux machine has had a lot of trouble with software updates. When I built the machine about 12 years ago [1] it allocated a /boot partition that was big enough then but not big enough but as Ubuntu grew the /boot was too small to keep as many versions as Ubuntu wanted so kernel upgrades needed manual intervention. And for that machine it is a h", "context": "", "use_case": "fixing driver module issues", "switched_from": "", "story": "Ask HN: Is it just me, or is software buggier across the board?"}]}], "caveats": [{"label": "Forced integration", "summary": "Commenters dislike Copilot buttons, keys and popups across Windows and Office that they cannot fully turn off.", "quotes": [{"id": 743141396, "item_id": 46446337, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46446337", "by": "pcblues", "date": "2025-12-31", "stance": "warn", "quote": "Not being able to make Copilot disappear is annoying.", "excerpt": "I haven't had a _terrible_ UI experience with Win 11 that Apple hasn't put me through already. But it took away my sideways toolbar. I don't click anything that loads edge, like \"Show me more from the web\" type links. So I don't see ads. I use firefox and thunderbird. The telemetry all the way through the operating system sucks ethically. But I'm invested and familiar with Windows and Office. Not being able to make C", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "2025 was a disaster for Windows 11"}, {"id": 735384274, "item_id": 45961517, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45961517", "by": "ChicagoDave", "date": "2025-11-17", "stance": "warn", "quote": "Office products are bastardized with copilot buttons everywhere.", "excerpt": "Microsoft has gone full-blown evil corporation again. No customer validation on any of the AI cruft. No full OPT OUT. Office products are bastardized with copilot buttons everywhere. I've been a Windows user from day one and I now see a future without it. Satya had been a bright spot in Microsoft, but this blind lust for AI, especially in bed with Altman who is pure con artist, is unforgivable. Some of the investment", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders"}, {"id": 735416754, "item_id": 45963547, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45963547", "by": "bilekas", "date": "2025-11-18", "stance": "warn", "quote": "at least there wont be a copilot slop gen on my machine", "excerpt": "I picked up a new laptop recently and the thing comes with a dedicated copilot button, cutting space from the spacebar, it's infuriating. I disable the shortcut to open the slop generator but after each windows update, it reactivates. I realised I don't actually need windows anymore, my light gaming is fine with the proton layer and for personal development I rarely use dotnet anymore and even when I do, I use .net c", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders"}]}, {"label": "Poor output quality", "summary": "Some report irrelevant file edits, bad summaries, or results well behind other paid models.", "quotes": [{"id": 775438816, "item_id": 48464926, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48464926", "by": "bradley13", "date": "2026-06-09", "stance": "warn", "quote": "I find Copilot shockingly awful. It makes random changes to files that have nothing to do with the problem.", "excerpt": "I use AI for a wide variety of things, of which technical is only a small part - and then it's usually a problem with project configuration, not coding. Why? Because I am often testing projects handed in by students. Projects that supposedly work on their machine, but certainly do not on mine. Anyway, anecdotally, I find Copilot shockingly awful. It makes random changes to files that have nothing to do with the probl", "context": "tests projects handed in by students", "use_case": "debugging student project configuration", "switched_from": "", "story": "Claude Fable 5"}, {"id": 736039345, "item_id": 46002459, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46002459", "by": "rucknar", "date": "2025-11-21", "stance": "warn", "quote": "The CoPilot (or Gemini in google workspace) experience is almost a different product it's so far off the raw performance of paid models.", "excerpt": "Perhaps just me, but isn't this a case of the AI you ship to hundreds of millions of users isn't that impressive? The CoPilot (or Gemini in google workspace) experience is almost a different product it's so far off the raw performance of paid models. I can't stand interacting with these AI buddies that feel like simpletons. Stuff like Claude Sonnet 4.5 however i use for work daily.", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash"}, {"id": 777302864, "item_id": 48581429, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48581429", "by": "ingvay7", "date": "2026-06-17", "stance": "warn", "quote": "They absolutely trashed most conversation threads with barren slop and mixed up convo threads.", "excerpt": "I used to think AI summaries in emails were sorta useful until I was dealing with a particularly long engagement with a law firm where their paralegal sends out AI-generated recaps. After a couple of months, I was at my wits end at the paralegal sending me these summaries. They absolutely trashed most conversation threads with barren slop and mixed up convo threads. I think it may have been Copilot they were using.", "context": "", "use_case": "AI email summaries", "switched_from": "", "story": "Sixty percent of US consumers say 'AI' in brand messaging is a turnoff"}]}, {"label": "Degradation and quotas", "summary": "Users report the service got slower and worse, with quotas and budgets used up quickly.", "quotes": [{"id": 783097249, "item_id": 48943578, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48943578", "by": "arman-w-jalili", "date": "2026-07-16", "stance": "warn", "quote": "at work we have copilot, i'm not sure, but the quality of service has got degraded in my opinion, speed is very low", "excerpt": "at the moment private i use mainly deepseek, about 80% and very very happy with it, at work we have copilot, i'm not sure, but the quality of service has got degraded in my opinion, speed is very low, i casually get error, api not available, especially gemeni-flash ,i have the feeling GPT5.4 is not as good as before, and with serious work i burn all my 400\u20ac budget in 4 days", "context": "", "use_case": "work coding assistant", "switched_from": "", "story": "What % of your usage is open source vs. frontier models?"}, {"id": 767002482, "item_id": 47937655, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47937655", "by": "lgl", "date": "2026-04-28", "stance": "warn", "quote": "Due to the copilot nerfing recently", "excerpt": "Due to the copilot nerfing recently I've switched to codex and gpt 5.4 (and now especially 5.5) have been doing pretty great. But even codex has these super weird time limits. It's really starting to show that these companies must have been losing a ton of money with all the recent limits and degration. I'm still on the \"camp\" that most of these unicorns will be F'ed by open and local models in the next few years, at", "context": "", "use_case": "coding", "switched_from": "", "story": "Ask HN: Is it just me or is Claude Code getting worst?"}, {"id": 800122304, "item_id": 50007644, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50007644", "by": "diegolas", "date": "2026-10-08", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "i think the harness is the best for writing and reviewing code.", "excerpt": "i use windows by choice and would personally pay for copilot if the quotas didn't dry up so fast for the cheapest plan. i think the harness is the best for writing and reviewing code.", "context": "", "use_case": "writing and reviewing code", "switched_from": "", "story": "Meta and Microsoft take steps to reduce employee usage of Claude AI"}]}, {"label": "Little practical use", "summary": "Several commenters say they never found a use for it and cancelled or ignored it.", "quotes": [{"id": 743966321, "item_id": 46497895, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46497895", "by": "barney54", "date": "2026-01-05", "stance": "warn", "quote": "never found a use case for Copilot", "excerpt": "Wow this is dumb. The reason I\u2019m on Windows is because of Office. For my needs Office on Windows is the best\u2014otherwise I\u2019d be on a Mac or Linux. I use AI everyday and never found a use case for Copilot. So why rebrand Office, their best product after Copilot, their worst product?", "context": "Windows user", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Microsoft Office renamed to \"Microsoft 365 Copilot app\""}, {"id": 761428112, "item_id": 47589257, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47589257", "by": "LurkandComment", "date": "2026-03-31", "stance": "warn", "quote": "I can't think of when I actually used it and cancelled any subscription associated with it.", "excerpt": "I thought a year ago when I bought a new laptop with 365 and Copilot integrated that they would make better use of AI and its integration. I can't think of when I actually used it and cancelled any subscription associated with it. On the otherhand, I use ChatGPT all the time.", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Microsoft: Copilot is for entertainment purposes only"}, {"id": 748367138, "item_id": 46772946, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46772946", "by": "eleventhborn", "date": "2026-01-26", "stance": "warn", "quote": "I'm not getting the appeal of copilot at all.", "excerpt": "Coming from a Gsuite + Atlassian + AWS world to an all-inclusive Microsoft world was an experience. It should be in the bucket list for every developer to try once in their life. WSL is a far better developer environment in Windows even for dotnet based development. I use it at work. It is fine. Windows OS on the other hand is a mess. There are dedicated keyboard shortcut (win + c), keyboard buttons, buttons on deskt", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "State of the Windows: What is going on with Windows 11?"}]}, {"label": "Performance drag", "summary": "Copilot in the browser sidebar is said to slow the browser down.", "quotes": [{"id": 735738545, "item_id": 45983659, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45983659", "by": "jrm4", "date": "2025-11-19", "stance": "warn", "quote": "My browser slows to a crawl with the silliness like copilot on the side.", "excerpt": "WONDERFUL. If it works, literally life improving for me. My browser slows to a crawl with the silliness like copilot on the side. And at the risk of asking too much (because this was a thing we used to have as a plugin)... ...any possibility of color-coding separate accounts?", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Thunderbird adds native Microsoft Exchange email support"}]}], "who": [{"by": "boricj", "context": "maintainer of ghidra-delinker-extension", "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47919654", "date": "2026-04-27"}, {"by": "al_borland", "context": "employee, restricted tools", "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47455880", "date": "2026-03-20"}, {"by": "emotiveengine", "context": "maintains small open source projects", "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47326863", "date": "2026-03-10"}], "tags": ["for coding", "for Windows users", "for restricted workplaces"], "use_cases": ["health self-diagnosis", "writing and reviewing code", "pr code review", "tui coding assistant", "work coding assistant", "fixing driver module issues"], "compared": [{"slug": "github-copilot", "name": "GitHub Copilot", "co": 11, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 0}, {"slug": "codex", "name": "Codex", "co": 8, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 1}, {"slug": "claude-code", "name": "Claude Code", "co": 9, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 0}, {"slug": "cursor", "name": "Cursor", "co": 7, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 0}, {"slug": "claude", "name": "Claude", "co": 5, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 1}, {"slug": "deepseek", "name": "DeepSeek", "co": 3, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 1}, {"slug": "windows", "name": "Windows", "co": 5, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 0}, {"slug": "gemini", "name": "Gemini", "co": 4, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 0}], "makers": [], "threads": [{"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45959795", "title": "Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders", "mentions": 2}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50263012", "title": "She Worried About Cutting Her Medication Dose. ChatGPT Told Her to Push On", "mentions": 1}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50106747", "title": "Ultramarine 1\u00a0Flash", "mentions": 1}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49997161", "title": "Meta and Microsoft take steps to reduce employee usage of Claude AI", "mentions": 1}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49844896", "title": "Microsoft abandons personal AI chatbot race with Copilot reboot", "mentions": 1}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49703003", "title": "GPT-5.6 Luna vs. GPT-6 Astra: Is a $1.20 Model Good Enough for Code Review?", "mentions": 1}], "sentiment_by_month": {"2025-11": {"warn": 5}, "2025-12": {"warn": 3}, "2026-01": {"warn": 4}, "2026-02": {"recommend": 1, "warn": 1}, "2026-03": {"neutral": 2, "warn": 1}, "2026-04": {"recommend": 1, "compare": 1, "warn": 1}, "2026-05": {}, "2026-06": {"neutral": 2, "warn": 2}, "2026-07": {"neutral": 1, "recommend": 1, "warn": 1}, "2026-08": {"neutral": 2}, "2026-09": {"compare": 1, "warn": 1}, "2026-10": {"recommend": 2, "warn": 1}}, "quotes": [{"id": 804459072, "item_id": 50278692, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50278692", "by": "ButlerianJihad", "date": "2026-10-28", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "I've had many Copilot discussions about minor and major health annoyances, and they've mostly been productive.", "excerpt": "I've had many Copilot discussions about minor and major health annoyances, and they've mostly been productive. Often, I just want to go to the doctor to find out \"ugh what even IS THIS?\" I seek a diagnosis, but providers don't work like that! So it's preferable to do armchair self-diagnosis that doesn't cost anything, from the comfort of my own home. It's especially useful to know \"will this wind up in an E.D. visit?", "context": "", "use_case": "health self-diagnosis", "switched_from": "", "story": "She Worried About Cutting Her Medication Dose. ChatGPT Told Her to Push On"}, {"id": 802082993, "item_id": 50130187, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50130187", "by": "ggeorgovassilis", "date": "2026-10-17", "stance": "warn", "quote": "copilot started acting up against the Deepseek models", "excerpt": "I started using it last week when copilot started acting up against the Deepseek models. It's fast, solid, I love the architecture but be warned: it submits very very many input tokens against the LLM endpoint, so robust & cheap token caching is a must.", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Ultramarine 1\u00a0Flash"}, {"id": 800122304, "item_id": 50007644, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50007644", "by": "diegolas", "date": "2026-10-08", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "i think the harness is the best for writing and reviewing code.", "excerpt": "i use windows by choice and would personally pay for copilot if the quotas didn't dry up so fast for the cheapest plan. i think the harness is the best for writing and reviewing code.", "context": "", "use_case": "writing and reviewing code", "switched_from": "", "story": "Meta and Microsoft take steps to reduce employee usage of Claude AI"}, {"id": 797563409, "item_id": 49847713, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49847713", "by": "light_triad", "date": "2026-09-25", "stance": "warn", "quote": "I'm not optimistic for Copilot", "excerpt": "You're right using Microsoft products is like mixing Momento with Waiting for Gadot :) I recently switched to New Outlook and it's full of weird subtle bugs. It takes them years to fix things and make them barely useable. Given their track record I'm not optimistic for Copilot given both the vision and the execution are questionable at best.", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Microsoft abandons personal AI chatbot race with Copilot reboot"}, {"id": 795263492, "item_id": 49703968, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49703968", "by": "dlahoda", "date": "2026-09-14", "stance": "compare", "quote": "finds bugs missed by coderabitai, devin-integration-bot, codex and copilot", "excerpt": "I would and do. works perfect https://github.com/dzmitry-lahoda/dz/tree/main/agents/skills/code-review burns half of day sub of astra for 200 USD. runs 1 hour on our repo. finds bugs missed by coderabitai, devin-integration-bot, codex and copilot (I ask them first until nothing found, yet my orchestration finds more). I do not hardcode our application in orchestration, but run subagent for applicationdomainproduct de", "context": "", "use_case": "PR code review", "switched_from": "", "story": "GPT-5.6 Luna vs. GPT-6 Astra: Is a $1.20 Model Good Enough for Code Review?"}, {"id": 790379920, "item_id": 49398745, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49398745", "by": "cpach", "date": "2026-08-22", "stance": "neutral", "quote": "The only one I use is Copilot (inside of a VM).", "excerpt": "This makes me curious. What are your favourite TUI applications? The only one I use is Copilot (inside of a VM). ALl other applications I use are GUI/CLI/webapps.", "context": "", "use_case": "TUI coding assistant", "switched_from": "", "story": "Stop Making TUIs"}, {"id": 786190288, "item_id": 49136893, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49136893", "by": "Waterluvian", "date": "2026-08-01", "stance": "neutral", "quote": "So now I\u2019m asking Copilot to tell me what I want for dinner.", "excerpt": "Some people don\u2019t use AI and I don\u2019t get it. My wife has never used AI and yesterday I saw her reading a book made out of paper. I imagine she\u2019s just weighed all the details and options in her mind and plans to french fry tokens from my plate instead of getting her own. And I hate that. I mean, I love her. She\u2019s definitely value-add. But those are my tokens, right? My brain doesn\u2019t do books. I can\u2019t sit on the beach ", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Cursor removed cost information from the usage page and CSV export"}, {"id": 783097249, "item_id": 48943578, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48943578", "by": "arman-w-jalili", "date": "2026-07-16", "stance": "warn", "quote": "at work we have copilot, i'm not sure, but the quality of service has got degraded in my opinion, speed is very low", "excerpt": "at the moment private i use mainly deepseek, about 80% and very very happy with it, at work we have copilot, i'm not sure, but the quality of service has got degraded in my opinion, speed is very low, i casually get error, api not available, especially gemeni-flash ,i have the feeling GPT5.4 is not as good as before, and with serious work i burn all my 400\u20ac budget in 4 days", "context": "", "use_case": "work coding assistant", "switched_from": "", "story": "What % of your usage is open source vs. frontier models?"}, {"id": 782746673, "item_id": 48921667, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48921667", "by": "PaulHoule", "date": "2026-07-15", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Copilot offered me a script to tell if the modules are busted after a kernel upgrade", "excerpt": "My two Win 11 machines have been pretty solid for a while, but my Ubuntu Linux machine has had a lot of trouble with software updates. When I built the machine about 12 years ago [1] it allocated a /boot partition that was big enough then but not big enough but as Ubuntu grew the /boot was too small to keep as many versions as Ubuntu wanted so kernel upgrades needed manual intervention. And for that machine it is a h", "context": "", "use_case": "fixing driver module issues", "switched_from": "", "story": "Ask HN: Is it just me, or is software buggier across the board?"}, {"id": 779918224, "item_id": 48744889, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48744889", "by": "tvali", "date": "2026-07-01", "stance": "neutral", "quote": "CoPilot extended this to full manual and more math.", "excerpt": "I use my own digit system to trivialize AI: words (32 and 64 bit or longer floats) replaces by digits in one of 4 values in this symbolic model of AI in terms of it's most basic functioning of single perceptron. CoPilot extended this to full manual and more math.", "context": "", "use_case": "extending an AI model write-up", "switched_from": "", "story": null}, {"id": 777302864, "item_id": 48581429, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48581429", "by": "ingvay7", "date": "2026-06-17", "stance": "warn", "quote": "They absolutely trashed most conversation threads with barren slop and mixed up convo threads.", "excerpt": "I used to think AI summaries in emails were sorta useful until I was dealing with a particularly long engagement with a law firm where their paralegal sends out AI-generated recaps. After a couple of months, I was at my wits end at the paralegal sending me these summaries. They absolutely trashed most conversation threads with barren slop and mixed up convo threads. I think it may have been Copilot they were using.", "context": "", "use_case": "AI email summaries", "switched_from": "", "story": "Sixty percent of US consumers say 'AI' in brand messaging is a turnoff"}, {"id": 775438816, "item_id": 48464926, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48464926", "by": "bradley13", "date": "2026-06-09", "stance": "warn", "quote": "I find Copilot shockingly awful. It makes random changes to files that have nothing to do with the problem.", "excerpt": "I use AI for a wide variety of things, of which technical is only a small part - and then it's usually a problem with project configuration, not coding. Why? Because I am often testing projects handed in by students. Projects that supposedly work on their machine, but certainly do not on mine. Anyway, anecdotally, I find Copilot shockingly awful. It makes random changes to files that have nothing to do with the probl", "context": "tests projects handed in by students", "use_case": "debugging student project configuration", "switched_from": "", "story": "Claude Fable 5"}, {"id": 775350640, "item_id": 48459415, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48459415", "by": "CrzyLngPwd", "date": "2026-06-09", "stance": "neutral", "quote": "I used copilot to make a basic MCP server for a large DB", "excerpt": "I used copilot to make a basic MCP server for a large DB, so it could write better queries. I also got it to write a mysql DB importer I could use instead of \"mysql\", since I often import large DBs locally. I wanted progress, estimated completion time, and I wanted it to prevent my machine from going to sleep during the import.", "context": "", "use_case": "writing MCP server and DB importer", "switched_from": "", "story": "Ask HN: What are tools you have made for yourself since the advent of AI"}, {"id": 775271137, "item_id": 48454446, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48454446", "by": "picofarad", "date": "2026-06-08", "stance": "neutral", "quote": "I really liked the way copilot was last year", "excerpt": "I'd have to see representative examples but there are thousands of models available, obliterated, remixed, distilled, cloned, compressed, and so many more. I really liked the way copilot was last year, but I switched to deepseek because I don't trust MS. Grok cracks me up, but I refuse to give elon more money than I'm already forced to by circumstance outside my control and budget.", "context": "", "use_case": "AI chat", "switched_from": "", "story": "Is This the Dawn of the Tokenpocalypse?"}, {"id": 767002482, "item_id": 47937655, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47937655", "by": "lgl", "date": "2026-04-28", "stance": "warn", "quote": "Due to the copilot nerfing recently", "excerpt": "Due to the copilot nerfing recently I've switched to codex and gpt 5.4 (and now especially 5.5) have been doing pretty great. But even codex has these super weird time limits. It's really starting to show that these companies must have been losing a ton of money with all the recent limits and degration. I'm still on the \"camp\" that most of these unicorns will be F'ed by open and local models in the next few years, at", "context": "", "use_case": "coding", "switched_from": "", "story": "Ask HN: Is it just me or is Claude Code getting worst?"}, {"id": 766837969, "item_id": 47927373, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47927373", "by": "topce", "date": "2026-04-27", "stance": "compare", "quote": "I used  both copilot and kiro", "excerpt": "I used both copilot and kiro copilot sonet 1 copilot opus 3 kiro sonet 1.3 kiro opus 2.2 IMHO lot of people will switch to kiro and or deep seek it look like AWS done best inference google is another big player , has model and also cloud byt my 2 cents form Cents on AWS", "context": "", "use_case": "AI coding", "switched_from": "", "story": "Microsoft to Stop Sharing Revenue with Main AI Partner OpenAI"}, {"id": 766714464, "item_id": 47919654, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47919654", "by": "boricj", "date": "2026-04-27", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Copilot saved this project and I really mean it.", "excerpt": "I used to think about abandoning ghidra-delinker-extension. It was a project that started innocently enough, but its domain is unbelievably complex. Recovering MIPS relocation spots from a Ghidra database sounds like an easy enough task, until you're confronted with behemoth functions that span thousands of instructions and undocumented psABI extensions that produces edge cases from Hell. But then, someone contribute", "context": "maintainer of ghidra-delinker-extension", "use_case": "tests, refactoring, investigations", "switched_from": "", "story": "It's OK to abandon your side-project"}, {"id": 761428112, "item_id": 47589257, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47589257", "by": "LurkandComment", "date": "2026-03-31", "stance": "warn", "quote": "I can't think of when I actually used it and cancelled any subscription associated with it.", "excerpt": "I thought a year ago when I bought a new laptop with 365 and Copilot integrated that they would make better use of AI and its integration. I can't think of when I actually used it and cancelled any subscription associated with it. On the otherhand, I use ChatGPT all the time.", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Microsoft: Copilot is for entertainment purposes only"}, {"id": 759294080, "item_id": 47455880, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47455880", "by": "al_borland", "date": "2026-03-20", "stance": "neutral", "quote": "the only thing I'm allowed to use at work is Copilot, so I just use that", "excerpt": "I prefer to move slower. I've accepted that I'm not going to create some unicorn startup (that was never an aspiration). As an employee at a company, my goal is to focus my time learning the things that are relevant to my job and that will be useful for 10 years, not 10 weeks. Chasing every new tech will lead to burnout and disillusionment at some point. AI probably isn't going away in the same way NFTs largely did, ", "context": "employee, restricted tools", "use_case": "AI assistant at work", "switched_from": "", "story": "I'm OK being left behind, thanks"}, {"id": 757229808, "item_id": 47326863, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47326863", "by": "emotiveengine", "date": "2026-03-10", "stance": "neutral", "quote": "Someone who doesn't know it feeding prompts to Copilot produces code that passes lint and still misses the point entirely.", "excerpt": "I maintain a few small open source projects and the PR quality went off a cliff once AI coding tools got popular. People generate something that compiles and looks reasonable but is wrong in ways that take me longer to explain than to just fix myself. The weird part is I use AI heavily for my own code and it's great. But I know the codebase since I wrote it from scratch. Someone who doesn't know it feeding prompts to", "context": "maintains small open source projects", "use_case": "AI code generation", "switched_from": "", "story": "Why AI is both a curse and a blessing to open-source developers"}, {"id": 751560929, "item_id": 46972558, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46972558", "by": "kuboble", "date": "2026-02-11", "stance": "warn", "quote": "After they added copilot I finally gave up and uninstalled it", "excerpt": "I used notepad as my default, simple text editor for ages. After they added copilot I finally gave up and uninstalled it and switched to a one of the minimalistic clones of the good old notepad.exe", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Windows Notepad App Remote Code Execution Vulnerability"}, {"id": 751305378, "item_id": 46956586, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46956586", "by": "0xbadcafebee", "date": "2026-02-09", "stance": "recommend", "quote": "how come I'm getting solid results from Copilot and Haiku/Flash?", "excerpt": "Local models are decent now. Qwen3 coder is pretty good and decent speed. I use smaller models (qwen2.5:1.5b) with keyboard shortcuts and speech to text to ask for man page entries, and get 'em back faster than my internet connection and a \"robust\" frontier model does. And web search/RAG hides a multitude of sins. \"Using anything other than the frontier models is actively harmful\" - so how come I'm getting solid resu", "context": "", "use_case": "agentic coding", "switched_from": "", "story": "Eight More Months of Agents"}, {"id": 748780290, "item_id": 46798768, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46798768", "by": "ChicagoDave", "date": "2026-01-28", "stance": "warn", "quote": "But the copilot business is AAF.", "excerpt": "I\u2019m getting closer and closer to making the same decision. I have a Surface Laptop 5 that won\u2019t enable the AI cruft so I got somewhat lucky there. But the copilot business is AAF. And now that I use Claude Code in WSL or my Ubuntu server, I\u2019m pretty much done with visual studio development. Not sure what\u2019s left. Satya Nadala will have single-handedly destroyed the Windows ecosystem.", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Microsoft forced me to switch to Linux"}, {"id": 748367138, "item_id": 46772946, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46772946", "by": "eleventhborn", "date": "2026-01-26", "stance": "warn", "quote": "I'm not getting the appeal of copilot at all.", "excerpt": "Coming from a Gsuite + Atlassian + AWS world to an all-inclusive Microsoft world was an experience. It should be in the bucket list for every developer to try once in their life. WSL is a far better developer environment in Windows even for dotnet based development. I use it at work. It is fine. Windows OS on the other hand is a mess. There are dedicated keyboard shortcut (win + c), keyboard buttons, buttons on deskt", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "State of the Windows: What is going on with Windows 11?"}, {"id": 745504118, "item_id": 46594007, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46594007", "by": "arjie", "date": "2026-01-12", "stance": "warn", "quote": "Perhaps this is the promise that Copilot was not.", "excerpt": "This sounds really interesting. Perhaps this is the promise that Copilot was not. I'm really hoping that this gives people like my wife access to all the things I use Claude Code for. I use Claude Code for everything. I have a short script in ~/bin/ called ,cc that I launch that starts it in an appropriate folder with permissions and contexts set up: ~ tree ~/claude-workspaces -d /Users/george/claude-workspaces \u251c\u2500\u2500 c", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Cowork: Claude Code for the rest of your work"}, {"id": 743966321, "item_id": 46497895, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46497895", "by": "barney54", "date": "2026-01-05", "stance": "warn", "quote": "never found a use case for Copilot", "excerpt": "Wow this is dumb. The reason I\u2019m on Windows is because of Office. For my needs Office on Windows is the best\u2014otherwise I\u2019d be on a Mac or Linux. I use AI everyday and never found a use case for Copilot. So why rebrand Office, their best product after Copilot, their worst product?", "context": "Windows user", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Microsoft Office renamed to \"Microsoft 365 Copilot app\""}, {"id": 743141396, "item_id": 46446337, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46446337", "by": "pcblues", "date": "2025-12-31", "stance": "warn", "quote": "Not being able to make Copilot disappear is annoying.", "excerpt": "I haven't had a _terrible_ UI experience with Win 11 that Apple hasn't put me through already. But it took away my sideways toolbar. I don't click anything that loads edge, like \"Show me more from the web\" type links. So I don't see ads. I use firefox and thunderbird. The telemetry all the way through the operating system sucks ethically. But I'm invested and familiar with Windows and Office. Not being able to make C", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "2025 was a disaster for Windows 11"}, {"id": 741576673, "item_id": 46348542, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46348542", "by": "throwaway613745", "date": "2025-12-21", "stance": "warn", "quote": "I DEFINITELY don't want Copilot or Recall.", "excerpt": "Ultimately, I didn't switch to Linux because I wanted to. I switched to Linux because Microsoft became so actively hostile to me I felt like I didn't have any other choice. No Microsoft, I'm not buying new hardware just to get the new OS. No, I'm not going to let you nag me every single day until I get pissed off enough to. No, I will not tolerate all the little things in your OS that piss me off everyday. Your softw", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "I can't upgrade to Windows 11, now leave me alone"}, {"id": 737848161, "item_id": 46115510, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46115510", "by": "mixxit", "date": "2025-12-01", "stance": "warn", "quote": "my exchange business plan telling me copilot is here over and over in a giant popup screen and then saying - it's not available yet", "excerpt": "Meanwhile android demanding I use Gemini and then telling me my Google account has no Gmail to turn on Gemini to add a calender entry And then my exchange business plan telling me copilot is here over and over in a giant popup screen and then saying - it's not available yet", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "John Giannandrea to retire from Apple"}, {"id": 736039345, "item_id": 46002459, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46002459", "by": "rucknar", "date": "2025-11-21", "stance": "warn", "quote": "The CoPilot (or Gemini in google workspace) experience is almost a different product it's so far off the raw performance of paid models.", "excerpt": "Perhaps just me, but isn't this a case of the AI you ship to hundreds of millions of users isn't that impressive? The CoPilot (or Gemini in google workspace) experience is almost a different product it's so far off the raw performance of paid models. I can't stand interacting with these AI buddies that feel like simpletons. Stuff like Claude Sonnet 4.5 however i use for work daily.", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash"}, {"id": 735738545, "item_id": 45983659, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45983659", "by": "jrm4", "date": "2025-11-19", "stance": "warn", "quote": "My browser slows to a crawl with the silliness like copilot on the side.", "excerpt": "WONDERFUL. If it works, literally life improving for me. My browser slows to a crawl with the silliness like copilot on the side. And at the risk of asking too much (because this was a thing we used to have as a plugin)... ...any possibility of color-coding separate accounts?", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Thunderbird adds native Microsoft Exchange email support"}, {"id": 735416754, "item_id": 45963547, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45963547", "by": "bilekas", "date": "2025-11-18", "stance": "warn", "quote": "at least there wont be a copilot slop gen on my machine", "excerpt": "I picked up a new laptop recently and the thing comes with a dedicated copilot button, cutting space from the spacebar, it's infuriating. I disable the shortcut to open the slop generator but after each windows update, it reactivates. I realised I don't actually need windows anymore, my light gaming is fine with the proton layer and for personal development I rarely use dotnet anymore and even when I do, I use .net c", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders"}, {"id": 735384274, "item_id": 45961517, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45961517", "by": "ChicagoDave", "date": "2025-11-17", "stance": "warn", "quote": "Office products are bastardized with copilot buttons everywhere.", "excerpt": "Microsoft has gone full-blown evil corporation again. No customer validation on any of the AI cruft. No full OPT OUT. Office products are bastardized with copilot buttons everywhere. I've been a Windows user from day one and I now see a future without it. Satya had been a bright spot in Microsoft, but this blind lust for AI, especially in bed with Altman who is pure con artist, is unforgivable. Some of the investment", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders"}, {"id": 733203267, "item_id": 45825204, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45825204", "by": "newscracker", "date": "2025-11-05", "stance": "warn", "quote": "I don\u2019t think we\u2019re anywhere close to that if ChatGPT (which I presume powers Copilot as well) struggles and hallucinates so much.", "excerpt": "I feel what this article says based on some recent (non-catastrophic) experiences. I think I\u2019m probably an above average user when it comes to Excel skills. I love spreadsheets. But I struggle with formulas like index, match, vlookup/xlookup and many others, and even more so when it requires nesting one within another and coming up with the underlying logic that leads to some complex nested formulas. Over the past co", "context": "above average Excel user", "use_case": "Excel assistance", "switched_from": "", "story": "I\u2019m worried that they put co-pilot in Excel"}]}