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I can't get anything sustained out of codex in chatgpt plus, while I have been using Claude pro extensively and put on a lot of experimental task and features. I ran into codex exhausting a 5h window on code review in minutes (like 3minutes) multiple times, ", "context": "", "use_case": "building features", "switched_from": "", "story": "GPT-6 Sol and Luna"}, {"id": 786470000, "item_id": 49154375, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49154375", "by": "Michelangelo11", "date": "2026-08-03", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "I have a piddly little Claude Pro account, I use it every day", "excerpt": "Wft. I have a piddly little Claude Pro account, I use it every day, and Opus 5 and Fable (judiciously used) are very helpful and useful in my work and personal life. I am happy with my setup. Then I read this, and I imagine it's what primitive farming societies felt like when introduced to combine harvesters, high-clearance sprayers and mega tractors. I am happy on my farm. I like the carrots I plant by hand. I do no", "context": "", "use_case": "work and personal life", "switched_from": "", "story": "The Shape of Things to Come"}, {"id": 761309633, "item_id": 47581852, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47581852", "by": "teaearlgraycold", "date": "2026-03-30", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Claude Pro might be 10-20x the Opus tokens for only twice the price", "excerpt": "I'm looking at their plans (https://github.com/features/copilot/plans) it seems like the limits might be pretty low, even with the Pro+ plan which is 2x the cost of Claude Pro. It seems like Claude Pro might be 10-20x the Opus tokens for only twice the price.", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Learn Claude Code by doing, not reading"}]}], "caveats": [{"label": "", "summary": "", "quotes": [{"id": 767899698, "item_id": 47993731, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47993731", "by": "sieve", "date": "2026-05-02", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "the Claude Pro plan is mostly unusable for any serious coding effort", "excerpt": "Kimi is really good. I have been using Sonnet and others (DeepSeek, ChatGPT, MiniMax, Qwen) for my compiler/vm project and the Claude Pro plan is mostly unusable for any serious coding effort. So I use it in chat mode in the browser where it cannot needlessly read your entire project, and use Kimi on the OpenCode Go plan with pi. Kimi consistently exceeded Sonnet on the C+Python project. Never had to worry about it d", "context": "", "use_case": "coding", "switched_from": "", "story": "Kimi K2.6 just beat Claude, GPT-5.5, and Gemini in a coding challenge"}, {"id": 745311650, "item_id": 46581978, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46581978", "by": "fgonzag", "date": "2026-01-11", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "I was so Anthropics and OpenAIs value proposition vs basically free Gemini + open router or local models is just not there for me.", "excerpt": "My first switch was to open code + open router. I used it to try mixing models for different tasks and to try open weights models before committing to the hardware. Even paying API pricing it was significantly cheaper than the nearly $500 I was paying monthly (I was spending about $100 month combined between Claude pro, chat gpt plus, and open router credits). Only when I knew exactly the setup I wanted locally did I", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Anthropic: Developing a Claude Code competitor using Claude Code is banned"}]}], "who": [], "tags": [], "use_cases": ["building features", "work and personal life", "ai models", "coding", "personal projects"], "compared": [{"slug": "glm", "name": "GLM", "co": 3, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 0}, {"slug": "opencode", "name": "OpenCode", "co": 3, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 0}, {"slug": "chatgpt-plus", "name": "ChatGPT Plus", "co": 2, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 0}, {"slug": "gemini", "name": "Gemini", "co": 2, "switched_from": 0, "switched_to": 0}], "makers": [], "threads": [{"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49805509", "title": "GPT-6 Sol and Luna", "mentions": 1}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49152316", "title": "The Shape of Things to Come", "mentions": 1}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48645386", "title": "Elevated error rate across multiple models", "mentions": 1}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48536776", "title": "Apple Foundation Models", "mentions": 1}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48311647", "title": "Claude Opus 4.8", "mentions": 1}, {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47993235", "title": "Kimi K2.6 just beat Claude, GPT-5.5, and Gemini in a coding challenge", "mentions": 1}], "sentiment_by_month": {"2025-11": {}, "2025-12": {}, "2026-01": {"warn": 1}, "2026-02": {"compare": 1, "neutral": 2}, "2026-03": {"neutral": 1, "recommend": 1}, "2026-04": {"neutral": 1}, "2026-05": {"warn": 2}, "2026-06": {"neutral": 2}, "2026-07": {}, "2026-08": {"recommend": 1}, "2026-09": {"recommend": 1}, "2026-10": {}}, "versions": [], "version_unnamed": 0, "family_ref": null, "runs_on": null, "lines": [], "quotes": [{"id": 796939856, "item_id": 49808741, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49808741", "by": "ketzu", "date": "2026-09-22", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "I could get Claude to implement 2~3 medium sized features with the same usage consumption.", "excerpt": "> You literally cannot use Claude pro to build real software Interestingly I would have drawn the exact opposite conclusion looking at my Claude and codex usage. I can't get anything sustained out of codex in chatgpt plus, while I have been using Claude pro extensively and put on a lot of experimental task and features. I ran into codex exhausting a 5h window on code review in minutes (like 3minutes) multiple times, ", "context": "", "use_case": "building features", "switched_from": "", "story": "GPT-6 Sol and Luna"}, {"id": 786470000, "item_id": 49154375, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49154375", "by": "Michelangelo11", "date": "2026-08-03", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "I have a piddly little Claude Pro account, I use it every day", "excerpt": "Wft. I have a piddly little Claude Pro account, I use it every day, and Opus 5 and Fable (judiciously used) are very helpful and useful in my work and personal life. I am happy with my setup. Then I read this, and I imagine it's what primitive farming societies felt like when introduced to combine harvesters, high-clearance sprayers and mega tractors. I am happy on my farm. I like the carrots I plant by hand. I do no", "context": "", "use_case": "work and personal life", "switched_from": "", "story": "The Shape of Things to Come"}, {"id": 778370787, "item_id": 48648174, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48648174", "by": "cromka", "date": "2026-06-23", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "now also have access Gemini Pro and Claude Pro", "excerpt": "I use Go plan precisely with Opencode IDE (and also Jetbrains IDE suite), but now also have access Gemini Pro and Claude Pro. And wonder which tooling to invest my time into, especially that MCP servers also potentially come into play here, and I want at least some models/tools to handle private tasks, like handling my increasingly-complex Home Assistant setup. And I also want to start using models according to needs", "context": "", "use_case": "AI models", "switched_from": "", "story": "Elevated error rate across multiple models"}, {"id": 776683392, "item_id": 48542712, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48542712", "by": "axus", "date": "2026-06-15", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "my Claude Pro subscription", "excerpt": "Last I checked the telcos made plenty of money in the 90s. Should Verizon be getting a cut of my Claude Pro subscription, since I use FIOS to access it?", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Apple Foundation Models"}, {"id": 773080320, "item_id": 48317520, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48317520", "by": "selcuka", "date": "2026-05-28", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "", "excerpt": "They have already been experimenting with such ideas [1]: > Claude Code Removed from $20-a-Month \"Pro\" Subscription for New Users [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47855832", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Claude Opus 4.8"}, {"id": 767899698, "item_id": 47993731, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47993731", "by": "sieve", "date": "2026-05-02", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "the Claude Pro plan is mostly unusable for any serious coding effort", "excerpt": "Kimi is really good. I have been using Sonnet and others (DeepSeek, ChatGPT, MiniMax, Qwen) for my compiler/vm project and the Claude Pro plan is mostly unusable for any serious coding effort. So I use it in chat mode in the browser where it cannot needlessly read your entire project, and use Kimi on the OpenCode Go plan with pi. Kimi consistently exceeded Sonnet on the C+Python project. Never had to worry about it d", "context": "", "use_case": "coding", "switched_from": "", "story": "Kimi K2.6 just beat Claude, GPT-5.5, and Gemini in a coding challenge"}, {"id": 765695840, "item_id": 47855990, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47855990", "by": "almyk", "date": "2026-04-21", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "According to https://claude.com/pricing/pro it is included.", "excerpt": "where have you read this? According to https://claude.com/pricing/pro it is included.", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Changes to GitHub Copilot Individual Plans"}, {"id": 761309633, "item_id": 47581852, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47581852", "by": "teaearlgraycold", "date": "2026-03-30", "version": null, "stance": "recommend", "quote": "Claude Pro might be 10-20x the Opus tokens for only twice the price", "excerpt": "I'm looking at their plans (https://github.com/features/copilot/plans) it seems like the limits might be pretty low, even with the Pro+ plan which is 2x the cost of Claude Pro. It seems like Claude Pro might be 10-20x the Opus tokens for only twice the price.", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Learn Claude Code by doing, not reading"}, {"id": 757135280, "item_id": 47320955, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47320955", "by": "anonzzzies", "date": "2026-03-10", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "I use Pro for personal stuff.", "excerpt": "Yeah, that would end that really quickly. I use Pro for personal stuff. If $200 is not allowed for companies I don't think anyone would use it, at all.", "context": "", "use_case": "personal projects", "switched_from": "", "story": "No, it doesn't cost Anthropic $5k per Claude Code user"}, {"id": 755059264, "item_id": 47191204, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47191204", "by": "kelnos", "date": "2026-02-27", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "I already have a Claude Pro subscription.", "excerpt": "It's a marketing/sales tactic. I already have a Claude Pro subscription. I use it quite a bit, and do hit the limits often enough (sometimes needing to wait 2-3 hours before it resets), but I'm not convinced I want to spend more on the Max subscription, even though I do get a ton of value out of it. Giving me Max 20x for 6 months would just get me hooked more on it to the point that I'd likely upgrade my subscription", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Get free Claude max 20x for open-source maintainers"}, {"id": 751623376, "item_id": 46976461, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46976461", "by": "alias_neo", "date": "2026-02-11", "version": null, "stance": "neutral", "quote": "I'm currently on Claude Pro", "excerpt": "What's the use case for Zai/GLM? I'm currently on Claude Pro, and the Zai looks about 50% more expensive after the first 3 months and according to their chart GLM 4.7 is not quite as capable as Opus 4.5? I'm looking to save on costs because I use it so infrequently, but PAYG seems like it'd cost me more in a single session per month than the monthly cost plan.", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "GLM5 Released on Z.ai Platform"}, {"id": 749667345, "item_id": 46854209, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46854209", "by": "Alifatisk", "date": "2026-02-02", "version": null, "stance": "compare", "quote": "3x usage of the Claude Pro plan", "excerpt": "I use GLM-4.7 by Z.ai. For authentication mechanism, I guess you mean when the agent calls for the model? It\u2019s through api keys. The subscription I have is the coding plan lite (3x usage of the Claude Pro plan), ~7$ / quarter.", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "OpenClaw is everywhere all at once, and a disaster waiting to happen"}, {"id": 745311650, "item_id": 46581978, "url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46581978", "by": "fgonzag", "date": "2026-01-11", "version": null, "stance": "warn", "quote": "I was so Anthropics and OpenAIs value proposition vs basically free Gemini + open router or local models is just not there for me.", "excerpt": "My first switch was to open code + open router. I used it to try mixing models for different tasks and to try open weights models before committing to the hardware. Even paying API pricing it was significantly cheaper than the nearly $500 I was paying monthly (I was spending about $100 month combined between Claude pro, chat gpt plus, and open router credits). Only when I knew exactly the setup I wanted locally did I", "context": "", "use_case": "", "switched_from": "", "story": "Anthropic: Developing a Claude Code competitor using Claude Code is banned"}]}